Are Haibikes huge?

Over50

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...And it was nice to get more of both toes on the ground. Guess my 30" inseam has shrunk a little with age. ;->
Sorry to resurrect this thread but I just wanted to get some Xduro Trekking owners' confirmation: I'm leaning towards purchasing the XDuro Trekking 4.0 2017 as my 2nd/backup commuter. Although it is a class 1, I've really fallen for the elegance of the battery and motor integration and like how that CX motor is compact and angled up. I think the class 1 won't cost me too much time off of my commute since I've got so much start/stop in the commute. And when I am cruising it is usually between 18mph to 23mph. Rarely do I ever hit 25mph.

Anyway, its again the situation as with many top brands where the Haibikes are not available locally for me to try/test and since their frames are a bit unique, I'm having to guess a bit on the correct size. I've read through all the available threads including everything above and am leaning towards a Small 52cm frame:
I'm 5'9" with about 29.5-30" inseam, 165 pounds and 9.5" shoe size (in case shoe size impacts wheelbase decisions). I have the R&M Charger in Medium (49cm) which I feel is a really good fit for both standover and reach. The Charger has a much longer wheelbase. One of my human powered bikes is a Spot Brand 52cm frame (classic diamond frame). At times I feel perhaps it is a bit small and my toes will clip the front wheel on turns if I am not careful.

So I have two very educated opinions that I would be best on the Small 52cm frame for the XDuro Trekking 4.0 (one Chris at Propel and the other a Haibike representative). I say very educated because both of these opinions are from people that have seen and ridden the bike as well as other Haibikes. Then I have opinions from my two local dealers that I should order the 56cm Medium. Neither of these dealers has ever seen the bike. My LBS took some "x/y" measurements from my Charger and said I should order the the M. The other shop said I might not be happy with the short reach on the 52cm. I guess this speaks to the wisdom of riding before you buy but that will require a lengthy trip and once again make it harder for me to buy locally. So for current Haibike Trekking owners, do you find your frame sizes are a good fit for you in terms of reach and standover? Also, it seems as if the seat tube lengths on these bikes might be a bit short. Do you know if they are long enough, particularly on the Small, to allow for a BodyFloat replacement?
 

Ravi Kempaiah

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Haibikes are not available locally for me to try/test and since their frames are a bit unique, I'm having to guess a bit on the correct size. I've read through all the available threads including everything above and am leaning towards a Small 52cm frame:
I'm 5'9" with about 29.5-30" inseam, 165 pounds and 9.5" shoe size
I am 6ft with 33" inseam and ride a 52cm Trekking S Rx. You should go for 48cm.
the 52cm frame will really too big for you and you would regret purchasing it.
 

Over50

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I am 6ft with 33" inseam and ride a 52cm Trekking S Rx. You should go for 48cm.
the 52cm frame will really too big for you and you would regret purchasing it.
Thanks Ravi. Do you think standover or reach would be the biggest mismatch for me on the 52cm XDuro Trekking 4.0 2017? Does your Trekking model have a slightly longer top tube and reach vs the 2017 4.0? I'm just trying to reconcile the opinions. I had a Haibike representative reach out to me and her advice was the Small 52cm. I'll loosely quote her as "I'm 5'6" with 30" inseam and I would ride the small and based on your specs would suggest the same for you". My R&M Charger lists standover at 82cm and with shoes on I can straddle that bike flat footed but I am barely touching the top tube (so zero additional clearance with that 82cm).
 

Ravi Kempaiah

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Thanks Ravi. Do you think standover or reach would be the biggest mismatch for me on the 52cm XDuro Trekking 4.0 2017? Does your Trekking model have a slightly longer top tube and reach vs the 2017 4.0?
Haibike sizing is very weird and off-scale. See image below.
Both the 2016 Trekking S Rx and 2017 Trekking 4.0 have very similar frames and at your height, both reach and the top tube height would be uncomfortable.
With great certainty, I can tell you that 48cm is the right size.

Haibike Sizing.JPG
 

Over50

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Haibike sizing is very weird and off-scale. See image below.
Both the 2016 Trekking S Rx and 2017 Trekking 4.0 have very similar frames and at your height, both reach and the top tube height would be uncomfortable.
With great certainty, I can tell you that 48cm is the right size.
Thanks Ravi. I called the shop that advertises to be the largest Haibike dealer and they concurred on the 48cm at least as a starting point. And the gentleman I spoke to pointed out that even though Haibike calls it an XS in their sizing scheme, if you consider the low step sizes of 40 and 44cm, the 48 is actually somewhere in middle (and hence would be a lower medium given the full spectrum of sizes across low step and high step). So the sizing opinions have helped and now I am just waiting to see if I can obtain the bike locally. The dealer I'm trying to work with is struggling to find out how to get the bike (or even if they can). Which by the way: has something changed with Haibike's dealer network arrangement? A while back, I used their dealer locator and it gave me two local options inclusive of the shop I'm talking to. Now when I visit their site it gives me no local options and my shop isn't even sure if they are still a dealer. In fact, I put in my Michigan zip code on their site and it gives me an Oakland California dealer. Apparently my LBS was formerly listed as a dealer because they sold IZIP/Currie products. Anyway, lots of confusion right now with the folks I've been trying to work with.
 

rallysquirrel

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I'm 5'10 and 180lbs and 32" inseam. I just picked up a 2015 Trekking Pro size 52cm.
Go for the 48cm. I usually ride a 54-56cm and the Haibike cradles my crotch with both feet on the ground, where there should be a 2cm gap
 

Over50

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I'm 5'10 and 180lbs and 32" inseam. I just picked up a 2015 Trekking Pro size 52cm.
Go for the 48cm. I usually ride a 54-56cm and the Haibike cradles my crotch with both feet on the ground, where there should be a 2cm gap
Thanks for the insight. I've got the 48 cm on order. Bike shop thought maybe I should order the 52 (they haven't stocked a Haibike before). Hope to find out soon whether it was the right choice.
 

Manu

Active Member
Haibike puts model woman ..... it is because the different geometry between woman and man. At the same height both, the woman has longer legs and a shorter torso or spine.
Men
Crotch 84cm size 52.
the treking has very little suspension (6 cm) and the engine + pedalier has little height low center of gravity
, it is not valid to go up and down all kinds of stairs.


The rings are to raise or lower the handlebar ,colors red,green,blue.

Size frame + seat suspension.

Jayve in USA Haibike do not have speed pedelec treking yamaha engine 500w,speed pedelec is all BOSCH.
 

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andrewsolo73

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Hi, I wanted to see if anyone has advice. I am planning to buy for my 5'4'' wife either the 2016 Haibike SDURO Cross SM or the 2016 or 2017
Haibike SDURO HardLife 4.0 Ladies given I am seeing good clearance sales and already own a Haibike with Yamaha battery.

But I am really confused with sizing. I am reading 5'4'' lady should use a frame for a road bike should of 52cm but it seems like that may be too big for Haibike? Does anyone have any sense if I should be more like 50cm here or smaller?


I would hate to mess up here. We are casual riders mostly on roads in mountain region -- park city, utah. Thank you so much for insight!
 

solrus

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I bought today , I think las t new in stock 2017 Xduro 4.0 , found two low and high step, both in size L ( low step - 56 cm and high was 60 cm). Im 6.2, 35 inseam, the shop that was selling high step told me itw ould be perfect fit since stand over height was roughly 32". I was hesitant to buy it and was pushing the other shop assemble low step and see measurements. Apparently reach, horizontal tube distances are the same for those models in the above mentioned size. Low step stand over - was about 27". I was super excited to grab low step but after it was assembled the guy said that he had to raise seat way up a bit above handle bars to seat fine. He was 5.10. He told me I would need to add longer stem and do some tweaking or I should consider buying high step instead from another store.
The decision was made to buy high step, although I see that most on this forum bought two size down from haibike recommended, I think Over50 mentioned that he would consider going size up . Since the price for high step also was 300$ less and free shipping I decided to give a try. Will keep you posted.

P.S. I was able to stand over 2018 sduro trekking 4.0 in 64 frame and top tube was right in my crotch area, so I think 60 should work , although 56 could work too, depends if you prefer road or mountain bike top tube clearance.
 

solrus

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Confirmed 60 cm frame for 35 " inseam works perfect. After installing Ergotec stem , I love it now. My observation , look at Haibike web site recommendations for height and frame size and go one size down. Exp: I was recommended by Haibike rep to buy XL - 64 cm frame, but all other sellers from West and East coast convinced me to go with 60 cm mainly for the reach and not 56 cm. And I think that what Over50 was not happy that he felt crummy on his bike and wished to have a size up.
My saddle was a bit up of steering handlebars and with OEM reach I was like 45 degree lean , but after installing aftermarket stem Im 60 degrees now. and I m thinking strongly shortening my handlebar by 2 cm from both ends and make it 680 mm (720 current)
 

McRat

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Yes the XL 2018 Trekking is very tall. 85cm (33.5") stepover to the bar measured. I would not recommend it for anyone who is 6'1" or shorter, perhaps 6'3" and up. But I ride a KTM 500EXC, so I'm very used to 'tip-toe' ride heights. It works for me at 6'1" x 34" inseam. But one more inch would have been bad. What is nice is that the handlebars don't need a new neck to raise them.
I would probably go one size smaller than their recommendation.
 

Over50

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...And I think that what Over50 was not happy that he felt crummy on his bike and wished to have a size up...
Whoa, hey, wait ... this is a total misquote. I never wrote anything like that. What I wrote was: the standover height for me is perfect but the bike feels small ... I think if I had gone with the low step then I could have moved up a size. It doesn't feel crummy and I was happy even though the bike feels small. I can do my entire commute with no discomfort (37 miles). I sit more upright on the smaller Haibike than on my 49 cm R&M. I would prefer a bit more reach than I have on the Haibike. But I could not have gone a size up with the high step because the stand over height would have been too tall. Hope this clarifies.
 

mrcadence

New Member
I’m 6’2” with 34 inseam and recently picked up an XL - 64cm SDURO Trekking 6.0 2018. I love the big frame (especially since previously was borrowing an SDURO cross SM that was definitely too small). Agree that 1 more inch on the frame height and i’d have problems with it. The big frame feels like driving in an SUV vs a small sedan when compared to my regular non e-bike. I’m into it.
 

Jyrki

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If anyone needs this information... I'm 2 meters tall with 98cm inseam, and 2018 Sduro Trekking 4.0 XXL (64cm) is perfect for me. So I suppose a person should not be much under 2 meters to choose a 64cm frame.
 

smithglobe

New Member
I think the confusion for many people comes from the fact that the low-step and high-step Trekking models have different size ranges. I am 5'11" and have a 2017 Sduro Trekking 4.0 size 48. That 48 is regarded as a medium in the low-step but as a small in the high-step. The bike fits me pretty well although I sometimes wish I had gone up one size to a 52. But that would be too big in the high-step line. I suppose Haibike regards low-steps as more fitted for women when in fact I like the low-step for ease of getting on and off with a bag on the carrier. My main point is people need to be careful to distinguish between low-step and high-step sizings. A small in one is not the same as a small in the other....