My OneMotor review

GripeMan

New Member
I’m a longtime rubbernecker on the forum but upon seeing this thread wanted to post my thoughts on my first few months using OneMotor.

Background: I purchased the OneMotor unit because I frequently take my 6YO to school on my bike, which involves going over the Williamsburg bridge here in New York City and -- after dropping him off -- going back over the span to get to work...which all told is definitely taking more effort now that I’m a bit older and my kid is seemingly growing heavier by the day. We also live in a walkup building without onsite bike storage, so the prospect of buying an e-bike and lugging it up and down the stairs each day was a non-starter. Lastly, I have a lot of love for my current bike (a Trek Singletrack) and setup, so I didn’t feel like I wanted -- or needed -- to change my ride if I didn’t absolutely have to. I considered purchasing an e-wheel unit like the Hilltopper but I was concerned it would make my bike more appealing to thieves on the street.

So for me, when OneMotor launched I recognized the product claims ticked all my boxes: easy to install and remove, platform agnostic (meaning it can work for bikes, scooters, share-bikes, etc.), lightweight (about 6 pounds), and would provide enough of a variable power boost to help me on the bridges and keep my from getting too sweaty en route to my job. I think I was one of the first few people to get a unit locally, and was lucky to have Jeff generously offer to mount the brackets on my bike and GoPed scooter.

So far OneMotor has meet my expectations. I can definitely feel the boost in power when it kicks in, and the OneMotor app allows me to adjust the power and engagement modes depending on whether I am riding up or down the bridge inclines. On the relatively flat streets of Manhattan, I usually dial the power down, but I still tend to go faster with less effort using OneMotor. When engaged, the unit makes a slight whirring-whistling sound, barely perceptual at lower speeds and more audible when I'm going full speed.

The neat thing is how the unit senses my speed and adjusts the power accordingly. It uses a remote pedal sensor that attaches via magnet to the back of one pedal to track pedaling speed and rotation frequency. Using this info combined with the rotation speed of the friction belt drive that sits on the wheel, the unit then applies some fancy algorithm to continuously adjust the power and maintain overall efficiency. I’ve ridden down some gnarly cobblestone streets and the pedal sensor magnet has held fast.

The unit can be used in the rain, but I haven’t tried that (I think it’s basically due to some weird fear transference around using something electrical in the rain). However, one foggy morning I was going over the bridge and hit a stretch of surface condensation on the incline. The drive started to slip on the tire and automatically dialed down the power assist (as it should). This made getting up the hill a lot harder and I suspect that would happen on other inclines if the wheel was wet. That said, I’ve gone through puddles on relatively flat streets and the unit quickly recalibrated to regain traction and then it was business as usual.

Using the OneMotor on my GoPed scooter has been ok, but not quite on par with the bike experience. On flat smooth surfaces it is a blast to use in throttle mode, but on bumpier roads it can get pretty jarring at higher speeds without any suspension. Of course, this isn't an issue with the OneMotor unit itself, but it keeps me from enjoying my scooter ride with it on to the fullest.

So in summary, for someone regularly biking in an urban environment who could benefit from some e-power, I think the OneMotor is a pretty good investment. And it IS an investment…I paid over $1K for the unit, but that’s still less than a decent e-bike, and the piece-of-mind I get from being able to complete remove the OneMotor unit when I lock-up my bike makes it worth it. The unit is also well designed with high build-quality -- it’s clear how much thought was put into the whole experience of using it. Anyway, hope this helps anyone who is interested in the product!
 

miro

Member
Thanks GripeMan
It just confirms how much intelligence has been put into that little machine.
I'm waiting for my delivery scheduled to sunny Europe to arrive mid of July.
Our investments are bringing a splendid return.
 

GripeMan

New Member
Thanks to you both. @miro I think you will really like your unit when it arrives. One thing I should add regarding the slip in the wet I mentioned in my review - this happened with an early version of the OneMotor software that didn't enable adequate tightening to offset the slip I was experiencing. The latest software should address this. According to Jeff, OneMotor should be able to maintain at least 350W of power output even in the wettest conditions!
 

Lin B

Active Member
Thanks to you both. @miro I think you will really like your unit when it arrives. One thing I should add regarding the slip in the wet I mentioned in my review - this happened with an early version of the OneMotor software that didn't enable adequate tightening to offset the slip I was experiencing. The latest software should address this. According to Jeff, OneMotor should be able to maintain at least 350W of power output even in the wettest conditions!
Jeff also mentioned he is working on a second belt design specifically for those who ride in primarily wet weather seasonally. The belt is user-changeable in 10 minutes so one could have both types of belts and switch once a year.
 

miro

Member
Thanks to you both. @miro I think you will really like your unit when it arrives. One thing I should add regarding the slip in the wet I mentioned in my review - this happened with an early version of the OneMotor software that didn't enable adequate tightening to offset the slip I was experiencing. The latest software should address this. According to Jeff, OneMotor should be able to maintain at least 350W of power output even in the wettest conditions!
Thanks for clarifying the slip. You're absolutely right I'll be loving my OM
 

miro

Member
Jeff also mentioned he is working on a second belt design specifically for those who ride in primarily wet weather seasonally. The belt is user-changeable in 10 minutes so one could have both types of belts and switch once a year.
Wov,that's a great news about such an early product upgrade specifically comfortable for us overseas without hassle with customs and import/export inconveniences due to any complicated returning procedures.
 

Lin B

Active Member
Wov,that's a great news about such an early product upgrade specifically comfortable for us overseas without hassle with customs and import/export inconveniences due to any complicated returning procedures.
Also, at some point, he is going to have over-the-air software upgrades for the motors available. Maybe end of year or early next year is my guess. That will be ideal for you!
 

miro

Member
Also, at some point, he is going to have over-the-air software upgrades for the motors available. Maybe end of year or early next year is my guess. That will be ideal for you!
All this points to the OneMotor to be unique on the ebike market, it's here to stay. So happy to have it!
 

Lin B

Active Member
anyone know how long the share roller one motor battery will last, like one year?????
Most ebike batteries are rated for a certain number of cycles (full charges) so they don't give a time period. I can't recall what 1M said, but I'm sure it's on their website. Most of the batteries I've seen are either 500, 1000, or 2000 charges, with the prices increasing dramatically with the larger cycles number.
 

GripeMan

New Member
Just another quick update to my experience using OM. I was finally able to get the latest OM software loaded on my unit (complements of Jeff) and wow...talk about making an already great OM riding experience even better!

The new software allows for manual adjustment of tension/connection between the OM drive and the wheel, which is useful for optimizing the drive for bikeshare and battery efficiency in general, but even when I leave the software in auto mode, the difference compared to the original software is significant. The OM feels like it’s now gripping the wheel even better and that even more power is being transferred to the wheel. Additionally I can now feel more of the subtle adjustments the motor is continuously making based on the PAS data it’s receiving, which results in faster response-time and just better overall performance. My OM was great before but now it really feels like a fine tuned speed machine!
 

Lin B

Active Member
Just another quick update to my experience using OM. I was finally able to get the latest OM software loaded on my unit (complements of Jeff) and wow...talk about making an already great OM riding experience even better!

The new software allows for manual adjustment of tension/connection between the OM drive and the wheel, which is useful for optimizing the drive for bikeshare and battery efficiency in general, but even when I leave the software in auto mode, the difference compared to the original software is significant. The OM feels like it’s now gripping the wheel even better and that even more power is being transferred to the wheel. Additionally I can now feel more of the subtle adjustments the motor is continuously making based on the PAS data it’s receiving, which results in faster response-time and just better overall performance. My OM was great before but now it really feels like a fine tuned speed machine!
Ooooh.....now I really gotta send mine back to get updated, sounds great. thx.
 
So if I purchase a new unit from 1M web store will I get the latest OM software loaded on my unit? I did not purchase a unit yet. I was thinking about not getting the PAS because I have a brain injury and simple is better. Like friction motor engaged for hill, and then friction motor off completely for a natural riding experience as always. I used to be a bike rider all the time, and love the natural feel of riding. Due to fatigue from West Nile Virus post, I have to get some help up hills and some flats if the ride is more than five miles. But I hate technology especially if it requires abstract thinking. I only have true literal pictures in my head when doing operations, so data on a screen has to be simple. P.S. before a car hit me on my bike, I rode every day 25 miles instead of using a car, all year round, after I mostly rode M.S. rides 350 miles, so now I want to get back to riding 20 mile rides, which 5 miles is a big amount to me.
 

Lin B

Active Member
I would think you will get the newest software but you can always ask them (phone/email/facebook chat). I initially was not going to get the PAS either - they convinced me to try it. Now I cannot imagine riding without it. The joystick is quite tiny and imo not comfortable to hold for more than a quick boost. The PAS works quite simply and very well - the assist starts when you pedal and stops when you stop pedaling. You can turn it off (pause it, actually) with one button press on the handlebar controller and then resume it the same way. Here's my routine, maybe it will help you decide or maybe not. Turn on battery (press button), turn on handlebar controller (press button), turn on PAS (press face of PAS unit). Start riding. At that point, I can either up the assist level or pause the assist until I need it for a hill. Approach the hill, resume PAS with one button press -- or if you didn't have PAS, you would push and hold the tiny joystick. You do have fewer settings for power with the joystick (25, 50, 75, 100%) which is 4 levels; with PAS you actually have 9 levels of assist to choose from. I don't know if that will matter to you. Since you said you might want to use the motor on flats as well as hills, I highly recommend the PAS. If you are just going to use it for hills, you can probably get away with just the handelbar controller and joystick, but as I said, it's not something you are going to want to hold for distances on flats. There is a bit of a learning curve with the 1M, but several of us have had them now for a bit and are more than happy to help walk you through it.
 

miro

Member
So if I purchase a new unit from 1M web store will I get the latest OM software loaded on my unit? I did not purchase a unit yet. I was thinking about not getting the PAS because I have a brain injury and simple is better. Like friction motor engaged for hill, and then friction motor off completely for a natural riding experience as always. I used to be a bike rider all the time, and love the natural feel of riding. Due to fatigue from West Nile Virus post, I have to get some help up hills and some flats if the ride is more than five miles. But I hate technology especially if it requires abstract thinking. I only have true literal pictures in my head when doing operations, so data on a screen has to be simple. P.S. before a car hit me on my bike, I rode every day 25 miles instead of using a car, all year round, after I mostly rode M.S. rides 350 miles, so now I want to get back to riding 20 mile rides, which 5 miles is a big amount to me.
Yes, Lin is absolutely correct, if you purchase OM, please do yourself favor and get it with PAS don't even think of missing it. Riding with it is simpler, easier, safer, comfortable. If you go uphill while in PAS you just give it a boost with throttle if needed. You will have a bit to get used to it, you're combining your padeling effort with the motor power in order to extend your battery endurance, it's not a moped.
 
Thank you Lin. Your description was very helpful. I will get both. Since I learn by feel, I may have to try the unit with only the handlebar controller to begin. I have never had an electric motor kit for a bike. I assume I can leave the PAS physically off my bike to begin with. And I can probably try the bike with only the PAS and not the handle bar controller. Then try both. That is actually how I learn. One thing at a time. Will post here when reality happens buying and trying. I am happy that Gripeman wrote he almost bought the Hilltopper as I almost did too. Then I read that rain had gotten into the handlebar throttle and caused involuntary electric motor movement so there had been a recall. So for months I have been researching blogs and so glad for Lin, thanks again.
 
oh add: due to being hit by a car on my bike (driver of the car was blind in right eye, so never saw me) all of my bikes have very unique accommodations for back, neck, etc damage so I never would want an electric bike, love my bikes for the frame design and shock absorbers that are unusual but needed, so an e. kit is very right on to try.
 

Lin B

Active Member
Thank you Lin. Your description was very helpful. I will get both. Since I learn by feel, I may have to try the unit with only the handlebar controller to begin. I have never had an electric motor kit for a bike. I assume I can leave the PAS physically off my bike to begin with. And I can probably try the bike with only the PAS and not the handle bar controller. Then try both. That is actually how I learn. One thing at a time. Will post here when reality happens buying and trying. I am happy that Gripeman wrote he almost bought the Hilltopper as I almost did too. Then I read that rain had gotten into the handlebar throttle and caused involuntary electric motor movement so there had been a recall. So for months I have been researching blogs and so glad for Lin, thanks again.
The OM gives you options so right in your wheelhouse. You can ride with the phone app open+PAS (no handlebar controller), you can ride with handlebar controller only, you can ride with handlebar controller+PAS. You cannot ride with the PAS alone - you must have either the handelbar controller or the phone app going. For someone new to electric, I would suggest you first start with the handlebar controller/joystick - at 25%. Get used to it at the various power levels up to 100% in short bursts. Then add the PAS and start
at level 1. Work up through the levels (I've actually not gone higher than 5 of 9 in my usage). Then practice adding a bit of joystick burst to the PAS for hill climbing. Don't rush, post here or email Jeff & Grace with questions. Fwiw, I also looked at Hilltopper but I didn't want the added weight of a hub motor on my bike since I primarily ride without the motor at all.
 
Usually I make purchases with my credit card only by phone as once I was hacked. I do not find any business phone contact. I did email One Motor so I am hoping to purchase via phone. Thanks again Lin about the Hilltopper weight, I sent back a LEED 350 Watt front hub kit for that reason, too much weight.