Schwalbe 47-622 smaller than Trigger Sport 47-622 Tire

lewes5

New Member
#1
After suffering 3 flat tires over about a six week period with the Trigger Sport tire and tube on my Vado 3, , I decided to swap out the tube and tire. This is a course I have biked on my old Trek for about 4 years without an issue. Neither the I or the LBS could find what was causing the hole in the tubes - we both examined the wheel and the tire closely after each flat but could find nothing that was causing the puncture.

So, I decided to simply purchase a new Schwalbe tire, the same size (47-622) as the Trigger. I was surprised to find the Schwalbe was narrower than the Trigger and the sidewall not as high.
Although it went on the rim, it simply looks like a smaller tire.

Anyone else have a similar experience with the Schwalbe tires? Will this this smaller tire cause problems. Its on the front, so I expect to show slightly higher speeds on the speedo.

Thanks much!

chuck
 

JRA

Well-Known Member
#2
It is not just a problem with Schwalbe, it is a problem with just about every brand. Sometimes to the extreme just to be up with the current trends to enhance sales.

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Shouldn't make a huge difference in overall handling and hopefully be more puncture resistant. It you bought it at a shop I would go back to them with your complaint though if it bothers you enough.
 
#3
I just bought a 2020 Vado 3. On my first ride I blew the rear tube. Had the shop replace the prestos with schraders and they put in cheap sunline tubes. The tech failed to tell me to stay at 60 psi, even though the tire said 45-70psi. Anyway, I got rid of the stock tires and had them put on Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700x40. Max psi is 80psi. Waiting for the rain to stop here in central Florida to put some miles on this bike.
 
#4
I had three blown rear tubes on a brand new ebike. Like you, I merely followed the tire rating. But for now I'm staying on the lower end of the range, and using thorn resistant tubes.
 

PaD

Well-Known Member
#5
After suffering 3 flat tires over about a six week period with the Trigger Sport tire and tube on my Vado 3, , I decided to swap out the tube and tire. This is a course I have biked on my old Trek for about 4 years without an issue. Neither the I or the LBS could find what was causing the hole in the tubes - we both examined the wheel and the tire closely after each flat but could find nothing that was causing the puncture.

So, I decided to simply purchase a new Schwalbe tire, the same size (47-622) as the Trigger. I was surprised to find the Schwalbe was narrower than the Trigger and the sidewall not as high.
Although it went on the rim, it simply looks like a smaller tire.

Anyone else have a similar experience with the Schwalbe tires? Will this this smaller tire cause problems. Its on the front, so I expect to show slightly higher speeds on the speedo.

Thanks much!

chuck
Thanks for the info about Schwalbes being smaller than Trigger Sport. What tire from Schwalbe did you get?
I’ve had 2 flats in 2000 miles with Trigger Sport on Vados. Last year after about 1400 miles and today on my new Vado at just under 500 miles.
Both flats have been difficult to understand why they happened. First one was a really small stone or pebble that went through the ”famous” black belt. I first thought that todays flat was a valve failure. I examined the tire carefully and also the tube as I took it out to change it on a sidewalk in the middle of the city. Coming home I pumped up the old tube with my floor pump and there was a small hole in the tube. Can’t really understand how that happened. Guess I’ll have to take off the tire and have another look.

However I’m loosing confidence in these tires. I’ve ridden several years on e.g. Continental Travel Contact without any flat tires. Same city with glass from crushed bottles on the streets. Haven’t decided yet if I will go with Continental or Schwalbe.
2 pics from todays temporary workshop:)

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lewes5

New Member
#6
Changl - sorry I didn't include the tire name in my OP - it's the Marathon, not the Plus. With all the rain and high wind we've been experiencing on the Delaware coast, I've had only one ride with the new tire. No problems - I couldn't tell the difference except with I looked down at my tire as I was rolling. Looked a bit more narrow.

Like you, with the Trigger Sport tire, twice, I could see a small hole in the tube but no corresponding object in the tire or rim that would cause it. Very baffling.

I rode my Trek road bike several years with 25-700, Continental Gaterskins. Not one flat. Same trails and roads I am currently riding with the Vado. Unfortunately, the Gatorskins largest width is 32mm.
 

lloydt

New Member
#7
I'm running tubeless tires and I've no flats on this bike yet (1400 miles). On my other bikes 1 flat in about 4000 miles. I used to flat all the time with tubes. Generally, I run lower pressures (30-40lbs) and it makes for a much more comfortable ride. Weight is less, so it feels like the bike accellerates faster. On my Vado I'm running Schwable G-One speed 2.35. Super comfortable. I've replace the stock wheels so I'm not sure how easy it is to setup the stock wheels as tubeless.
 

lewes5

New Member
#8
Thanks, lloydt - curious to know with what did you replace your stock Vado wheels? What size? The Vado doesn't use a normal normal hub skewer to hold the wheels on the bike, at least not in front, but rather a what appears to be a 3/4 inch diameter threaded axle. Perhaps these are standard on ebikes but I have no experience with them.

Thanks much!