The new Stromer ST5

opimax

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Great info, hope i am not the one that proves nothing is impossible lol. Did you find out about the Bluetooth connectivity while my phone is currently attached to a headset ? will it still unlock?

is the power for US models officially at 750 for boost or is it going to be 850?

thx
 

bluecat

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A new review of the ST5. The new Swiss Super E-bike.
Thanks for sharing the video from Brett Thurber.

The video gives a nice impression how the landscape around the Stromer HQ - where we did our testrides too - looks like after the snow is gone. It shows one thing which is not part of my review here: The phone holder. This interesting device will replace the lid with the sign "ST5" and holds the phone above the stem. At the time, I can't say if this was only a prototype or if it will reach the market. Here the videostill:

 

bluecat

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Did you find out about the Bluetooth connectivity while my phone is currently attached to a headset ? will it still unlock?

is the power for US models officially at 750 for boost or is it going to be 850?

Sorry, I don't know - but two days ago, Stromer had held top secret US market launch celebration at a certain Pirelli store in LA.



I expect, from now on, the Stromer US representatives shall know all the US-market specific details - and I hope they will post answers here.
 

bluecat

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From a picture above, you already know there must be a inverse function on the display. This is true. The brightness sensor switches to the night design when darkness appears. This is to avoid being dazzled by the bright white display. You can activate the inversion also by hand, if you prefer it. Overall, the 2018 color display is easier to read, even if there are some reflection on the screen.




The advertising mentioned the "second screen" function. With this, the content of the display shall be extended to your mobile device. As stated above, we did not test this.

Apart from this funktion, the mobile phone could work as a GPS device with roadmaps. From the video made by InSight Show I've extracted this videostill. You see the socket of the mobile device mount and the rear view mirror. I've no clue about the mirror - is it a special wish from the owner or will it be the standard.

 

bluecat

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The user InSight Show published another video titled “Stromer ST5: Ich wünschte ich hätte diese dinge vor dem Kauf gewusst“ – can be interpreted as „things I wished to know before I bought“. His six minutes fil is a typical cellphone movie. He is fidgets around with his device like he was hunting dust in the wind. More interesting are the statements he made. Being polite, I have to say, his statements are misleading. So please don't get upset while watching it:


This video is originally produced and published by YouTube user InSight Show. To avoid annoying advertising, it is now hosted at vimeo.

Thanks to our dutch colleagues who brought my attention to this.
 
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bluecat

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The ST5 uses the mobile device mount technology from SP Connect. The most simple adapter is the self-glue part:


For these mobile phones arce cases available on which the adapter is integrated:

 

bluecat

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The M99pro has an integrated light sensor. It switches automatically from daytime running light to low beam - and back. The ST5 uses the full brightness of its U-shaped light. Earlier, this light was dimmed due to the swiss regulations. (It was hard for the authorities to accept, a bicycle can have a daytime running light like a car.) Clear visible is the superior brightness of the M99pro sickles.

Another functionality is the flashing. This 19 seconds video show the brightness of the flashing. Pay attention on the rear light; flashing light is like braking light..


 

bluecat

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The frame size guide for the ST2 and the ST5:

As mentioned above, on the ST5, you rather sitting in the bike than on the bike. For the handling, this makes the difference. One reason are the bigger wheels. Whilst the 26" have D = 677, the 27½" are D = 708 (approx.) The 15mm difference of radius are visible in the values of [F].

The most important value is [D]. As the wheels are bigger, you're not closer to the ground - but closer to the hubs.

Note: Stromer is changing its nomenclature for the frame size. Please compare always by the length of the seat tube.




 
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bluecat

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How does the Stromer horn sound?

This 15 seconds video features first the Supernova horn, then you hear the ST5 horning. It's made with the integrated microphone, so please allow some background noise.


The Supernova horne looks little bit different from the one on the ST5:


 

bluecat

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At my own Stromer (from Thömus), the welding seams are very well handcrafted (they are "geschuppt"). At the new ST5 (from myStromer AG), they are let's say, simple. Some new owners become surprised on this. Especially, as the 2017 Eurobike ST5 had no welding seams at the fork - whilst the current ST5 has some.

Probably, the fork at the 2017 Eurobike was a mockup from the 3D printer. Nevertheless, on the tech specs was stated: Fork = Stromer alloy


(colour removed to make comparison better visible)

 

bluecat

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To illustrate how the differences in craftsmanship are. Compare the welding seams at the head tube:

 

bluecat

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Are you suggesting the Swiss welds are better than Chinese? Or the other way around?
In terms of "better": Both do the same job. But the older one shows the superior skills of those whom made it :)

BTW, both frames are built at Fairly Bike Manufacturing Company, Formosa.
 

fxr3

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In terms of "better": Both do the same job. But the older one shows the superior skills of those whom made it :)

BTW, both frames are built at Fairly Bike Manufacturing Company, Formosa.
" they don't build em like they used too".
One split second of inattention leaves a permanent blemish on a tig weld.
Some Aluminum boats have 5 meter long welds.
 
1. ST-5 Gear indicator??
Did they take away the 1-11 gear indicator?
I use that a LOT and would miss it a LOT?

If removed, can it be added back by the dealer? What part/ what cost??

2. Battery door? I know it now opens without a key.
Can you lock it closed when battery is removed?
That cannot be done on current ST2-S correct?
If you remove battery for easier loading, 2-S door cannot be closed :(

Thanks
Have 17" frames arrived yet?
 

Ravi Kempaiah

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1. ST-5 Gear indicator??
Did they take away the 1-11 gear indicator?
I use that a LOT and would miss it a LOT?
Yes you can get it. It would be cost you $150 installed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shimano-XTR-Di2-System-Information-Display-Unit-SC-M9051-M9051-31-8mm/232017236503?

Have 17" frames arrived yet?
I don't think so.

I took test ride on the ST5 yesterday. Having biked 10K miles on the ST2 platform, I immediately noticed the sure-footedness of the bike. It is not as agile as the ST2-S but feels very stable, sort of like driving an Escalade. Because of the bigger frame, wheels and tires, it has more inertia as well. I was running the tires at 29-30psi and they absorbed bumps better than the ST2-S with a carbon fork.

At that pricepoint, it should come with a Rack, no excuse to eliminate one. Also, the gear index display is missing but that's something to do with Shimano. They have decided not to continue making those displays.

Electronic horn is a nifty feature for urban commuting. If I had nice roads like how they have it in Germany/Switzerland, it would be a delight to ride this bike. On pothole riddled Chicago streets, may not very pleasant.
 

Berlin

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Congratulation with your new speed bike.
Have fun & drive save’

This week i saw the St3 limited edition.
I was a little disappointed
Your St5 is twice as nice. Nice & clean design
Enjoy!