Trek or Giant?

pdxpaolo

New Member
Would love to get an ebike....

Debating betweek the Trek Powerfly FS and Giant Full E+ 1 SX Pro.
Both around 5000 usd.

I would primarily use if for a commute to work that is about 5 miles each way...which I would stretch to 10 if no rain.
So mainly normal roads, and a pretty steep and long hill on the way back home.
I did consider the Trek Commuter 8+...but feel that MTB would give me more options if I do want to take the bike in the mountains or on the beach.

Thoughts on the two mtb’s? Trek or Giant?

Thanks!
 

J.R.

Well-Known Member
Both look like great bikes. I did look at the Trek bikes and I'm considering the hard tail version Powefly. I do a lot of off road riding, but more the dirt trail cross-country style. Not too much technical single track. With that in mind and the riding you describe, a full suspension bike might limit your ability to carry a load. Panniers can't be mounted well to cantilever style racks that must be used with rear suspension bikes.

I have 2 hardtail ebikes with RockShox front suspension forks. One bike I mounted a BodyFloat, the other a Thudbuster, both seat-tube suspension systems. That gives me the ability to use a standard touring rack and still have some suspension in the rear. With that I can commute with a load, and go for an all day, 50 mile XC off-road tour on the many rail trails and canal tow paths. To me a hard tail mtb is the perfect all purpose bike. The rack? Comes off in less than 5 minutes when the mood strikes me to ride a trail that's a little more technical.

Just a thought. Good luck with the search!
 

Ravi Kempaiah

Well-Known Member
Would love to get an ebike....

Debating betweek the Trek Powerfly FS and Giant Full E+ 1 SX Pro.
Both around 5000 usd.

I would primarily use if for a commute to work that is about 5 miles each way...which I would stretch to 10 if no rain.
So mainly normal roads, and a pretty steep and long hill on the way back home.
I did consider the Trek Commuter 8+...but feel that MTB would give me more options if I do want to take the bike in the mountains or on the beach.

Thoughts on the two mtb’s? Trek or Giant?

Thanks!
May be Trek Police Bike?!
Does 28mph and is very versatile.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/cross-country-mountain-bikes/police/police-electric/p/1046690-2018/?colorCode=black

 

pdxpaolo

New Member
Both look like great bikes. I did look at the Trek bikes and I'm considering the hard tail version Powefly. I do a lot of off road riding, but more the dirt trail cross-country style. Not too much technical single track. With that in mind and the riding you describe, a full suspension bike might limit your ability to carry a load. Panniers can't be mounted well to cantilever style racks that must be used with rear suspension bikes.

I have 2 hardtail ebikes with RockShox front suspension forks. One bike I mounted a BodyFloat, the other a Thudbuster, both seat-tube suspension systems. That gives me the ability to use a standard touring rack and still have some suspension in the rear. With that I can commute with a load, and go for an all day, 50 mile XC off-road tour on the many rail trails and canal tow paths. To me a hard tail mtb is the perfect all purpose bike. The rack? Comes off in less than 5 minutes when the mood strikes me to ride a trail that's a little more technical.

Just a thought. Good luck with the search!

Thanks for your reply.

When you say carry a load....what do you mean?
I was planning on a small backpack..nothing serious as far as loads of stuff on the bike.
Would that work?
 

J.R.

Well-Known Member
Thanks for your reply.

When you say carry a load....what do you mean?
I was planning on a small backpack..nothing serious as far as loads of stuff on the bike.
Would that work?
You might do fine with a backpack, I couldn't. Summers here in the 80's & 90's and really humid, backpacks make me sweat more, not a great way to start the day. Winters here below freezing can actually be worse, a little sweat can make an otherwise cold ride, miserable. I'd rather have the bike carry the load. For me the commuting load is rain suit, light breathable windbreaker, tube, tire levers, pump, lightweight bike tool kit. Maybe a lunch or just a snack, water and whatever else I might need or want... the bike carries it! I can stop at the store on the way home to get that half gallon of milk so I don't have to drive to the store later. Some need to carry a laptop or paperwork to and fro. For an all day XC ride in the mountains I'll take even more! My riding is in the country, rural and sometimes very remote, so I need to be careful and prepared. That might not be you or even interest you.

I think good full suspension eMTB like the Trek bikes, I think they're designed for more serious mountain biking single track trails. FS bikes cost a lot more to buy and maintenance can cost a lot more as well. The BodyFloat and Thudbuster take the rough out of the trails I ride pretty well. Some riders prefer the FS bikes for everything. We are many and varied.

I have seen many people use backpacks while riding. I know a guy that rides less than me, on no more difficult track than I and he would never consider a touring rack. He just doesn't like the way they look. That's cool too! I kid when I say to him that I can't see the rack while I'm riding my bike;) Then again taking a cue from more serious touring cyclists, they never wear backpacks. Always panniers. Must be something to it.

Good hunting!

__________________________

Ravi,

Now you're just talking dirty. I like that bike! All it needs is a BodyFloat and a little more tire tread :)
 

pdxpaolo

New Member
I ended up with a Trek Super Commuter + 8s. Not a mtb....
Sat down and debated a little how i wil use the bike, and came to conclusion that most of the use will be commute to work, in my work attire...jeans.
Thought it would look a little funny to be on a full suspension mtb in jeans plus people at work would probably laugh at me.
Commuter is such a nice bike, with great components...unfortunately in usa it comes with SLX while in europe with XT components....so i will probably at some stage upgrade to XT.
As it gets warmer i will also get some panniers.
Love it so far!
 

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Would love to get an ebike....

Debating betweek the Trek Powerfly FS and Giant Full E+ 1 SX Pro.
Both around 5000 usd.

I would primarily use if for a commute to work that is about 5 miles each way...which I would stretch to 10 if no rain.
So mainly normal roads, and a pretty steep and long hill on the way back home.
I did consider the Trek Commuter 8+...but feel that MTB would give me more options if I do want to take the bike in the mountains or on the beach.

Thoughts on the two mtb’s? Trek or Giant?

Thanks!
Hello,

I have and ride a Trek Powerfly 7 hardtail and a Trek XM700 +. The XM 700 was going to be my 'do-all' bike, but I didn't
feel completely safe and stable on the hard packed rails to trials I ride. The bike is fine, it's my insecurity, so I bought
the Powerfly 7 and I could not be happier. I absolutely love the bike.

From what you've posted your riding style will be nearly identical to mine. The Powerfly is incredibly stable, extremely solid
and will climb a 'brick wall' : ) I cannot ride nor have need for the full suspension, thus the hardtail. I did install a Cirrus
Bodyfloat Seat post which is fantastic and makes all the difference in the world.

I've noticed as far as power consumption ( battery life) riding the Trek XM700+ and the Powerfly 7 over the exact same route
using the same battery on both rides the Powerfly 7 consumes 20% + less power then the XM700. I attribute most of the power
saving to the increased low end torque and gearing in the Bosch motor. The only 'drawback' to riding the Powerfly 7 on the road
is the built in 20 mph speed restriction as compared to the 28 mph limit on my XM700. Giant mtbs have the same 20 mph restriction.

Trek service after the sale via my LBS is fantastic plus their online Tech Chat service is great as well. I have been extremely
satisfied with my entire Trek experience, so much so that after riding my XM700 for a couple of months and deciding
I wanted the Powerfly 7, I ordered it without ever riding it. The bike far exceeded my expectations. One
last thing...I did swap out the factory Powerfly 7 handlebars for the Origin 8 Bat Wing bars because of their greater sweep.

http://www.origin8.bike/product-description/?prod_model_uid=9599

I hope this was helpful.

John from CT
 

bob armani

Well-Known Member
Both look like great bikes. I did look at the Trek bikes and I'm considering the hard tail version Powefly. I do a lot of off road riding, but more the dirt trail cross-country style. Not too much technical single track. With that in mind and the riding you describe, a full suspension bike might limit your ability to carry a load. Panniers can't be mounted well to cantilever style racks that must be used with rear suspension bikes.

I have 2 hardtail ebikes with RockShox front suspension forks. One bike I mounted a BodyFloat, the other a Thudbuster, both seat-tube suspension systems. That gives me the ability to use a standard touring rack and still have some suspension in the rear. With that I can commute with a load, and go for an all day, 50 mile XC off-road tour on the many rail trails and canal tow paths. To me a hard tail mtb is the perfect all purpose bike. The rack? Comes off in less than 5 minutes when the mood strikes me to ride a trail that's a little more technical.

Just a thought. Good luck with the search!
I really like the Trek line of ebikes. I plan on test riding the fleet at my LBS shortly, exclusively the Powerfly 5 hardtail. I am curoius to see how the Bosch motor is tuned with each of their ebikes. I test rode a couple last year and was highly impressed with the power output on a few of the speed pedelec versions. Stay tuned.
 

Thomas Jaszewski

Well-Known Member
Trek have long been favorites here. My most ridden bike is a flat foot Trek frame, sold as Trek Pure. Incredibly comfortable and a perfect kit bike for older riders. The quality of components, even in lower priced bikes exceeds that of most other makers. Their support has also been stellar.
 

bob armani

Well-Known Member
I ended up with a Trek Super Commuter + 8s. Not a mtb....
Sat down and debated a little how i wil use the bike, and came to conclusion that most of the use will be commute to work, in my work attire...jeans.
Thought it would look a little funny to be on a full suspension mtb in jeans plus people at work would probably laugh at me.
Commuter is such a nice bike, with great components...unfortunately in usa it comes with SLX while in europe with XT components....so i will probably at some stage upgrade to XT.
As it gets warmer i will also get some panniers.
Love it so far!
Really love the build quality and speed tuned really well on this bike. Wise choice IMHO! Enjoy!
 

bob armani

Well-Known Member
Hello,

I have and ride a Trek Powerfly 7 hardtail and a Trek XM700 +. The XM 700 was going to be my 'do-all' bike, but I didn't
feel completely safe and stable on the hard packed rails to trials I ride. The bike is fine, it's my insecurity, so I bought
the Powerfly 7 and I could not be happier. I absolutely love the bike.

From what you've posted your riding style will be nearly identical to mine. The Powerfly is incredibly stable, extremely solid
and will climb a 'brick wall' : ) I cannot ride nor have need for the full suspension, thus the hardtail. I did install a Cirrus
Bodyfloat Seat post which is fantastic and makes all the difference in the world.

I've noticed as far as power consumption ( battery life) riding the Trek XM700+ and the Powerfly 7 over the exact same route
using the same battery on both rides the Powerfly 7 consumes 20% + less power then the XM700. I attribute most of the power
saving to the increased low end torque and gearing in the Bosch motor. The only 'drawback' to riding the Powerfly 7 on the road
is the built in 20 mph speed restriction as compared to the 28 mph limit on my XM700. Giant mtbs have the same 20 mph restriction.

Trek service after the sale via my LBS is fantastic plus their online Tech Chat service is great as well. I have been extremely
satisfied with my entire Trek experience, so much so that after riding my XM700 for a couple of months and deciding
I wanted the Powerfly 7, I ordered it without ever riding it. The bike far exceeded my expectations. One
last thing...I did swap out the factory Powerfly 7 handlebars for the Origin 8 Bat Wing bars because of their greater sweep.

http://www.origin8.bike/product-description/?prod_model_uid=9599

I hope this was helpful.

John from CT
I am currently looking at three Treks at my LBS: Powerfly 5, Super Commutter7 and a used Powerfly7 FS (for $3500.00), however, has some nicks and scratches. Not sure which one I will pull the trigger on. Glad to hear you have had a good experience with your bikes from Trek.
 

bob armani

Well-Known Member
Trek have long been favorites here. My most ridden bike is a flat foot Trek frame, sold as Trek Pure. Incredibly comfortable and a perfect kit bike for older riders. The quality of components, even in lower priced bikes exceeds that of most other makers. Their support has also been stellar.
I have owned two of their standard bikes for many years and have had an incredibly reliable performance with both of them. Good company that stands behind their products and seem passionate about their offerings IMHO.