Watt Wagons Ultimate Commuter Pro

pushkar

Active Member
Sorry I'm a little confused here.. 395 miles in 24hr is approx 16mph, not 26mph.
Which in my opinion, rather slow considering the bike had a Bafang Ultra.

Was this actually a 24 hr run? like Le Mans 24 where they have 3 drivers (or riders) and actually run the machine for 24 hr straight?
or was this more like... ride for a bit, take a break, ride again, have a nap, and ride..?

Not trying to be negative or anything, but 16mph?? :oops:
Great point. Ravi was riding alone and took breaks along the way (food/power nap). Got pretty dramatic as we got closer to 24 hour mark as exhaustion started catching up with him, and us (the stopwatch warriors). We took a bunch of footage and will try to do something with it in the near future.

Ravi was pretty much doing 24-26mph while riding but Our avg with breaks dropped off after the 14 hour mark. We ended up having somewhat unexpected weather issues and significant cross wind gusts. Like crazy - we lost a tent!

It was tough sledding but we made it happen.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
You are negative!
If you watched the videos you would know he wasn't going 16mph.
well sorry but maybe I watch too much motorsports, but when I hear "24 hour record", I assumed the bike was tortured for 24 hours.
Because some of the most reliable motorcycles will have engine overheating or gear chipping problems if you actually ride hard at its potential for 24 hours.. though that's what make it interesting.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
Great point. Ravi was riding alone and took breaks along the way (food/power nap). Got pretty dramatic as we got closer to 24 hour mark as exhaustion started catching up with him, and us (the stopwatch warriors). We took a bunch of footage and will try to do something with it in the near future.

Ravi was pretty much doing 24-26mph while riding but Our avg with breaks dropped off after the 14 hour mark. We ended up having somewhat unexpected weather issues and significant cross wind gusts. Like crazy - we lost a tent!

It was tough sledding but we made it happen.
Okay thank you for clarifying, I thought that you had multiple riders switching around and ran the bike for 24 hour straight.
It must be exhaust to do this with one rider. Congrats to him.
 

Feliz

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well sorry but maybe I watch too much motorsports, but when I hear "24 hour record", I assumed the machine was actually tortured for 24 hours.
Because some of the most reliable motorcycles will have engine overheating or gear chipping problems if you actually ride hard at its potential for 24 hours.
I raced motorcycles most of my life and never had issues with that.
 

Timpo

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I raced motorcycles most of my life and never had issues with that.
well I have never raced a motorcycle for 24 hours, but I was under the impression it is rare for a bike(or car) to stay problem free for whole time.

I've seen many race teams retire somewhere along the 24 hour period because the mechanical problem was too severe to fix within reasonable time.

That said, I do not have any stats so I don't know the actual percentage of how many teams actually finish the 24 hour race, so you might be right?
 

J.R.

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well sorry but maybe I watch too much motorsports, but when I hear "24 hour record", I assumed the machine was actually tortured for 24 hours.
Because some of the most reliable motorcycles will have engine overheating or gear chipping problems if you actually ride hard at its potential for 24 hours.
With an ebike the potential is limited by a human factor. That's what it's all about. If you want to see tortured riders check out the Tour de France. I did an endurance rally in the 90's on a MC, 1200 miles in 24 hours. Any 24 hours in the saddle is grueling.
 

pushkar

Active Member
It must be exhaust to do this with one rider. Congrats to him.
Yes. Ravi is phenomenal. The bike was fantastic throughout.
Just to clarify for everyone - the records we were attempting were the most distance by a single rider on a legal ebike in 12 hours, and then in 24 hours. Pedal assist only.

The previous record was around 248 miles in 24 hours.
Ravi did nearly 225 miles in 12 hours and nearly 395 miles in the 24 hour period on the Watt Wagons Ultimate Commuter Pro.

I'm just so Incredibly proud of what we have been able to build and prove. We have electric bicycles that can rival automobiles for a large percentage of regular usage, and provide incredible reliability. It is just so great to be able to say that and back it up with what Ravi did with the bike. Truly a herculean effort on his part.
 

Timpo

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Ok initially I thought the WattWagon was too expensive.
Turned out, I was completely wrong.

Panasonic already built a titanium commuter bike nearly a decade ago.
However the price/performance factor was not even close to the WattWagon.

2010 Panasonic Titan Flat Road EB
Price: 699,999 yen ($6,607)
250W mid drive
top speed: electronically restricted to 25km/h (15mph)











 

Feliz

Well-Known Member
Yes. Ravi is phenomenal. The bike was fantastic throughout.
Just to clarify for everyone - the records we were attempting were the most distance by a single rider on a legal ebike in 12 hours, and then in 24 hours. Pedal assist only.

The previous record was around 248 miles in 24 hours.
Ravi did nearly 225 miles in 12 hours and nearly 395 miles in the 24 hour period on the Watt Wagons Ultimate Commuter Pro.

I'm just so Incredibly proud of what we have been able to build and prove. We have electric bicycles that can rival automobiles for a large percentage of regular usage, and provide incredible reliability. It is just so great to be able to say that and back it up with what Ravi did with the bike. Truly a herculean effort on his part.
Pushkar,

Kudos to your whole team, I know how hard you all worked and how incredibly proud you must be.????✌??????

I hope your success is reflected in sales of the Ultimate Commuter Pro. Are there any changes or additions you will make to your bike as a result of the event experience?
 

pushkar

Active Member
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I believe the bike did not need anything except recharging batteries. Very impressive bike.

Pushkar,

Are there any changes or additions you will make to your bike as a result of the event experience?
It was incredible ....we needed NOTHING except battery swaps ! The bike performed flawlessly. Not even a flat tube ! Just flat out grueling torture test of the entire bike - Ravi of course handled it incredibly well, and I am glad that all the thought we put in to it really mattered !
 

DaveMcK

New Member
Congrats to Pushkar, Ravi and everyone else involved in this amazing accomplishment! Your new world record is a testament to all of the prep and training that went into preparing for this event, not to mention the design and build of the Ultimate Commuter Pro itself. I cannot wait for my own Commuter Pro to arrive!
 

Jim OD

New Member
Hi Ravi and Pushkar, congrats on your new World Record, a great accomplishment and test of your Ultimate Commuter Pro.
Pushkar, I am looking forward to visiting you in Boston next week on the 14th to check out the bike and do a test ride.
 

Feliz

Well-Known Member
I would like to acknowledge the time, effort, and resources Pushkar has put in to finally get my Ulimate Commuter Pro on its way to me from Boston. The story is too detailed to explain on the forum but the short version is that Pushkar originally intended to ship the bike to me when he was in Halifax but for some reason in spite of Pushkars best efforts it couldn't be shipped from there. He took it back to Boston and finally got things sorted out and it's now on it's way to me in British Columbia. Pushkar put up with my numerous email and phone calls and even took time to send me numerous pictures of my bike in various stages of assembly. He looked after all the shipping details and is absorbing additional unexpected costs.......kudos to Pushkar.


I got to know Pushkar quite well during our phone calls and I have to say he is a guy LOADED with enthusiasm, he even put up with all my tantrums when I became impatient, good luck to Pushkar and Watt Wagons. Now where to hell is my bike........kidding. Oh, he even did all this while planning and running the world record attemp, which was successful.
 
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Feliz

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Did you complete the purchase of the second bike as a donation to your poor cousin in Minnesota. You know, the one with the little throttle?
I would but with your winters the bike would be frozen nine months of the year. I know because I lived in Winnipeg at one time, actually I made a lot of trips down to St Paul-Minneapolis to play hockey.
 

Thomas Jaszewski

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I would but with your winters the bike would be frozen nine months of the year. I know because I lived in Winnipeg at one time, actually I made a lot of trips down to St Paul-Minneapolis to play hockey.
Well then get the puck to the bank, I ride whenever there's a clear street. I also have a set of Norwegian studded tires and a 5V battery warmer made from parts for heating clothing. It's just winter... <wink>

is it warm where you live?
 
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