What I like about the new 2019 Trekking Sduro S 9.0

JayVee

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#1
There are several things I don’t like about my current Trekking Sduro S 6.0:
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  • Tires aren’t wide enough. You can put wider ones but it’s a PIA to adapt the fenders.
  • 60 Luxes is too bright for the city, but not bright enough for the countryside. The front light is located in a place where I can’t tilt it, so I often find myself blinding other drivers.
  • 500Wh isn’t enough given the hilly terrain where I live in. My average range is about 40 kilometers. I have a second battery, which I carry in a trunk bag. But the trunk bag doesn’t have a lock and that means that if I need to stop for groceries, I need to carry the bag with me.
  • The rear axle is fastened by a quick release (10/135). It can be fairly difficult to center the wheel with this type of mechanism.
  • Front fork is heavy because it is mechanically sprung (rather than air sprung). It only has 63mm of travel
  • The Yamaha drive is difficult to ride in ECO mode in hilly terrain. In ECO you can feel the drive resist your efforts a lot.

The new 2019 Haibike Sduro S 9.0 is also a class 3 but addresses many of the above problems:
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  • Super Moto X tires means more (light) off-road riding. The S 6.0 I currently have is painful to ride on gravel and service roads where the concrete has broken into pieces.
  • The 11-46 cassette is ideal for climbing steep hills with the Bosch Performance Speed drive because that drive requires a high cadence to climb hills. It's one of the Bosch Performance Speed's main weaknesses but pairing with a 46T will solve the problem. The larger chainring also allows more use of ECO mode on small and moderate inclines, thus increasing range.
  • Bosch drive is more pleasant and less tiring than the Yamaha I currently have.
  • 80 mm air sprung fork. Lighter than what I currently have.
  • Both front and rear wheels have thru axles.
  • Dual battery system: the intube battery can be supplemented with a 500Wh power pack
  • The lupine light is 140 luxes and is orientable when you ride.
Some downsides:

  • It’s an expensive bike, but… it’s still cheaper than an R&M.
  • Two different battery packs are necessary (intube + power pack), but do we really care?
  • It has Magura MT4 brakes which are the same as I currently have. They’re very sensitive to changes in atmospheric pressure, and require frequent maintenance (burping).
 
#2
I'm planning to get one myself... In Europe is called Sduro Trekking 9.0, without the "S", but as far as I can tell, the only difference is the paint job and the Bosch unit, which is a Performance CX (75 Nm, but capped at 25 km/h)
 
#4
I see.
Well the S version, according to Italian laws, is more a motorcycle than a bike, so it would require an insurance, a yearly ownership tax and would be forbidden in many areas where a standard bicycle wold have no problem entering.

I guess there's even a licence plate holder in the pic in the link you shared.

All in all, the extra speed would be nice but it's not worth the pains it cames with, at least not for my tipical needs.

Thanks!
 

batmick1

Active Member
#5
I see.
Well the S version, according to Italian laws, is more a motorcycle than a bike, so it would require an insurance, a yearly ownership tax and would be forbidden in many areas where a standard bicycle wold have no problem entering.

I guess there's even a licence plate holder in the pic in the link you shared.

All in all, the extra speed would be nice but it's not worth the pains it cames with, at least not for my tipical needs.

Thanks!
Well, and you can always add a chip to discreetly remove the limitation. The PearTune MSO, for example, can be turned on and off easily and unless you know what to look for no one will ever know. In terms of speed I can reach the same speeds on my road and tri bike but I just have to put a lot more effort into it so I doubt I will be targeted by law enforcement based on speed alone. I just try not to be an idiot when riding so I feel I am reasonable safe.
 

Manu

Active Member
#6
JaiveeI have the 5.0 version except the power of the mid-drive 250w and unloked speed, I saw your videos and they are asphalt road, in my case they are gravel, dirt, asphalt, I'm surprised you will not buy a

pneumatic seatpost, better seat with more gel and some gloves for the hands and eliminate vibration ...

I'm up to 4 hours on top of the pedelec.
This solves your problems for the current and maybe the next models you buy.

150 lumens is not enough in a night environment, not to go at 45km / h and less to go at 68km / h down the mountain, you always need at least 1000 lumens


If the road has many curves and you go at high speed, you will necessarily need amplitude with the light instead of being concentrated in one point.


you need to see the potholes and irregularities in the soil
 
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The new 2019 Haibike Sduro S 9.0 is also a class 3 but addresses many of the above problems:
Yes, that is why I have the 2017 Trekking 4.0, which is basically the same bike (except the internal battery), because I put the S-motor on it ;)
Here in California, I don't need to worry about that, because it's still legal - nobody ever cares.
However, I could install my own tuning dongle, but this would mess with the Nyon.
This new S 9.0 would be my favorite, too. And for a smoother ride I installed the Thudbuster ST seatpost
 

Feliz

Active Member
#8
Gosh, don't they ever produce the same bike two years in a row? I have a 2018 Sduro Trekking 9 and it's a wonderful bike, really good specs and Bosch CX

Anyone know what size tires are on the new Sduro S 9?
 
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JayVee

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Gosh, don't they ever produce the same bike two years in a row? I have a 2018 Sduro Trekking 9 and it's a wonderful bike, really good specs and Bosch CX

Anyone know what size tires are on the new Sduro S 9?
I think that this is an EU only model for the moment. Correction: seems that it will be a US delivery soon.

To answer your question:
  • Schwalbe Super Moto X, 62-584, 27.5" x 2.4"
 
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Chris Nolte

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I’m also very excited about this bike and I believe we will be seeing this here in the US, just a little later in the spring than some of the other 2019 bikes. I think you picked a good one @JayVee but I would expect nothing less from you ;)
 

JayVee

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#13
I’m also very excited about this bike and I believe we will be seeing this here in the US, just a little later in the spring than some of the other 2019 bikes. I think you picked a good one @JayVee but I would expect nothing less from you ;)
I've corrected my above post, so as not to confuse people. :)
 

JayVee

Well-Known Member
#14
@Chris Nolte , @Ravi Kempaiah

Do you have a list of all the multi-rail system options? Besides the additional power pack battery, do you know what additional parts are needed to transform the bike from a single battery 500Wh configuration to a dual battery 1000Wh configuration?

The MRS system is really practical, but I get the impression that it's not very well understood for the moment.
 

Ravi Kempaiah

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#15
@Chris Nolte , @Ravi Kempaiah

Do you have a list of all the multi-rail system options? Besides the additional power pack battery, do you know what additional parts are needed to transform the bike from a single battery 500Wh configuration to a dual battery 1000Wh configuration?

The MRS system is really practical, but I get the impression that it's not very well understood for the moment.
These are the accessories that are available.

MRS LOCK, with keyed alike battery cylinder

MRS Range Extender with keyed alike lock cylinder

MRS Plug In Cable

MRS Bottle Set

MRS CARRY PACK

Here is a quick video. Not all accessories are shown but you get the idea.

 

Ravi Kempaiah

Well-Known Member
#17
Ok, So I've sourced the part at Elektrofahrrad. But silly question, how are the battery electrics connected to the controller/drive? Is this user installable?

https://www.elektrofahrrad24.de/haibike-mrs-the-range-extender
Hi @JayVee ,
It's not user replaceable.
When you purchase the accessories, it should come with a Y-cable to connect the second battery to the controller/drive unit. Call the merchant and check if they ship with the Y-cable. MRS range extender kit comes with all the hardware you may need.
This Y-cable needs to be installed by a dealer and the software needs to be updated so both batteries have the latest firmware and there is no issue with charging.