York County,Pa. USA YCP Bans all ebikes on local rail trail

J.R.

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With opportunities opening up in State and National Parks, York will be left out if they insist on a formal ban. I have to wonder if access is denied to some groups, that the state and feds allow, could this impact state and federal grants the county depends on?
 

kathik

Member
I have not been back to ride the trail since before the meeting. I gave some thought to a trip down yesterday but I don't really enjoy riding when I have to keep one eye opened for those park rangers. Makes me feel like Yogi stealing picnic baskets.
 

Zilla

New Member
It's similar to what the state did with trails on state land. Ms. Klunk is getting boxed in!
I still like playing cat and mouse
I have not been back to ride the trail since before the meeting. I gave some thought to a trip down yesterday but I don't really enjoy riding when I have to keep one eye opened for those park rangers. Makes me feel like Yogi stealing picnic baskets.
 

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baxterblack

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With opportunities opening up in State and National Parks, York will be left out if they insist on a formal ban. I have to wonder if access is denied to some groups, that the state and feds allow, could this impact state and federal grants the county depends on?
The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution establishes that state laws are subordinate to federal laws and regulations. Put simply, federal law governs state law; however, this is only the case when federal and state laws conflict with one another . Mere overlap on subject matter is not enough to strike down a state statute; it must be impossible to comply with both federal and state law before a federal law overrides a state law.

...and traditionally state law “trumps” local regs.
This won’t escalate to challenge , but again it will inform local regs moving forward.
 

WalkinTarget

Active Member
I still like playing cat and mouse
Hah !! You and me both, brother ! I took a pic of his white Ranger with the dog dish rims sitting there by the entrance to the Days Mill parking lot about 2 months back. Luckily, he's too lazy to leave the SUV so I just kept riding on the trail. Its quite clear to me that this is his favorite haunt, and if you do not park there nor stop there, chances are quite good he isn't going to even see you ride by. I've been riding at a few other trails and have given a few friends rides, and they overwhelmingly love the thing. Even my hardcore single track friends have changed their minds on the usefulness of an ebike after a short spin on mine.

It's coming whether you like it on not, York county officials. You can continue to look like a podunk,, backwoods Mayberry and garner bad P.R., or you can correct your mistake and stop harassing ebikers who have every right to be on the trail system.
 
Has anyone discovered who made the complaint that triggered such a non democratic ( without public discussion) regulation.
Yes, I (we) know exactly who filed the complaint and the circumstances under why it was filed. And for the second part of your question- There is NO WRITTEN REGULATION!!! That's the whole issue. Go to York County PA .Gov find the parks section, print out the complete list of park rules and read it for yourself.
 
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I have not been back to ride the trail since before the meeting. I gave some thought to a trip down yesterday but I don't really enjoy riding when I have to keep one eye opened for those park rangers. Makes me feel like Yogi stealing picnic baskets.
Kathik, please, get over your guilt! Freedom is NOT free, the tyranny of the park leadership is at hand. Help us demand that they abide by the current legal definations in the PA vehicle code regarding pedalcycles or produce whatever regulations are to the contrary. Thus far they have produced nothing other then oral "they've always been illegal" and threats of warnings and citations. QUESTION AUTHORITY ALWAYS
 

Dionigi

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Yes, I (we) know exactly who filed the complaint and the circumstances under why it was filed. And for the second part of your question- There is NO WRITTEN REGULATION!!! That's the whole issue. Go to York County PA .Gov find the parks section, print out the complete list of park rules and read it for yourself.
Somewhat of an apoplectic reply.
 

joefullam

New Member
Just bought myself a Radrover e-bike. Any news on riding on the rail trail? I have been getting Cortisone shots in my knees for the last 3 years, so my doc may be able to write me a note if I need one...
Have they posted any signs regarding e-bike use on the trail?
 

Mr. sparky

New Member
Have had 2 Rad bikes for about 3 years and have enjoyed riding the rail trail.....till this year.... WTF .
The wife and I are 65 with health issues, not disabled but less abled. We enjoy a 20 mil. ride followed by dinner at one of the many restaurants along the trail. We do miss it. If there's anything we can do to rectify this situation please let us know [meetings-letters-calls]
Not understanding all the hate the more people that use the trail the more funding it will receive for maintenance and expansion.
 
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I've been following this thread off and on. Very impressed with the determination by our PA ebiking friends who use that trail in holding these local officials to the letter of the law.

Have you good folks contacted your local State Senator, asking for assistance against these beaurocrats? Maybe asking them to accompany you in the next trail meeting?