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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Credit to Bruce Choate, even he thought a web store would be more appropriate, this won't end well - as for the European customers who were shipped bikes with motors illegal for road use, this is contrary to the information I was given that the motor would be modified, but who is there to blame...
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    Another Sondors CF Campaign.. This one on KS

    USA shipping only correct? @ Court, has there been some sort of update to your Server? I can actually post now without taking 10 minutes to get on the forum and 10 mins to post replies after multiple attempts, nothing has been done my end!! I spoke too soon..... having problems posting...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Sorry I have been otherwise engaged, when did the first European purchaser get their ebike? What motor did it have and was there a massive customs charge?
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I guess some look beyond all the exaggerated specs and false claims and downright lies - 'we guarantee the shipping cost to be less.... much less than....' - and are happy with their purchase however it has been funded........ still waiting on those EU deliveries and the customs charges...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    I disagree @ J.R., I do not believe 7000+ bikes were ever made (or bought), no international buyer is yet to receive anything and the voices of dissension are starting to be heard. If it was indeed 7000+ bikes sold and with the rave reviews of the hundreds of people who have received a bik, why...
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    The Sondors Bike is Unravelling a Bit

    Well Trev, none of this crowdfunding/perk/donation stuff please, it is a direct purchase and taxes have to be paid somewhere at the very least.
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    The Sondors Bike is Unravelling a Bit

    aha so it was a (taxable) purchase after all and not a crowd-funded donation rewarded with a perk. The mouth doesn't know what the head tells it to say. What a silly thing thing to state. If the Campaign was such a resounding success with 7000+ bikes sold why not carry on? Or maybe there...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Jarrod MillerI picked black/black on April 23rd, paid on Feb 2nd, just notified wont ship till October- Totally screwed me 8 hrs (Link Removed - No Longer Exists) Jon DeGooyerwhat about the black on yellow and black on black? Both of mine are on the first wave and were said to be in LA no later...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Just to clarify George, this wasn't directed at me, it was directed elsewhere but seems to stand alone as a comment now.
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    George if I have understood correctly you say Europe is a big loser in this? Why? The Sondors cheap ebike will be hit with a 15% duty, 20% vat and 48% anti-dumping tax on import. Not of the cf price but on the $1299 srp. At least on paper. I think I am correct in stating Ivars will not be...
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    Thanks Trev good point. Curt Welch is a reasonable guy, he knows it is not a done deal but hopes for the best as everyone does, good guy to correspond reasonably with. He may be right I may be wrong and vice versa
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    Sondors Fact Finding. Due Diligence. Scrutiny.

    OK I am in positive discussion with Curt Welch who is an active member on the SS Owners Group who has taken the time to discuss things reasonably and on the level so my thanks to him. My concerns relate to the donations for 6000/7000/10000 bikes (who knows?) that were claimed to be ordered...
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    point taken :)
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    Oh no! Will I have to keep my crazy hat on until October 2015 for wave 1 backers to receive their orange and yellow ebikes as is claimed on the gosondors FB page - not leading anyone, read the comments!
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    @scmike, no way now how have 6000 bikes been delivered to US donators - we know 0 have been delivered to international donators to date - the bike has to be assembled with a 250W motor and speed restriction to 15.6mph to comply with EU Laws and to make it legal for road use, needs a Cert of...
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    @ scmike, great way to start a review, carry on! (Sorry Court)
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    For any manufacturer a full on review from Court clearly adds credibility
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    @ Court, in fairness I have rebuffed critics who think your review is some part of a wider scheme to destabilise the Sondors Campaign - it was a mistake pure and simple...... born from these facts 1) Sondors initially advertised the bike with a 50 mile range 2) Sondors then added * to the 50...
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    Trev, I simply do not believe there have been 5-6500 bikes delivered. I know zero bikes have been delivered to EU Customers/International Customers - the bikes is what it is, a decent cheap ebike which doesn't live up to the stated claims and never would. I am beginning to think that the...
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    Sondors Ebike Review Now Live

    Court, not everyone is an ebike expert and astute observations of minor details can make a difference for sure. Glad you mentioned the importance of animals!!!! I think it is better that the more experienced sift through the details to get what they want out of a review and people such as...