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  1. J

    Creo and chainring/cassette configurations

    Yes, the Sunrace cassette is a joke on an expenisve bike like the comp carbon... Also at least 10 teeth instead of 11 in the rear should have been standard from the first Creo and cheapest on, XD is no rocket science from 2022... pbd87, I can only give one like to your post, so here again...
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    Creo and chainring/cassette configurations

    So 46 at the rear wheel works with your derailleur without any changes? But I guess Di2 ist not the same as GRX... I would accept some slight changes or "updates" to my derailleur. But not if I need a new derailleur or other parts in the same price range.
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    Replacing JUICED CCS with Specialized VADO, VADO SL or CREO

    Ok, looks like you already tried Creo and Vado SL, great! If it's enough for your needs, you'll have to judge... If you compare it to a full power ebike (or "overfull" power bikes with 500-800W motors), the assist edrives like SL will always appear much weaker and slower. But if you compare it...
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    Creo and chainring/cassette configurations

    I would like a smaller gear for climbing and switch from 11-42 to 11-46 or 10-46. Has anyone tried 46 teeth in the back on the Creo (Comp Carbon 2020, 1x11, and I think Shimano RX812 GRX Shadow Plus), is this possible?
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    Replacing JUICED CCS with Specialized VADO, VADO SL or CREO

    I think most of the people who know light ebikes like SL bikes also know "normal" (=heavy) ebikes. But everyone feels different on a light ebike and it depends an your needs and your excpectations if you like it or not. It doesn't make much sense to tell you about personal feelings, if you...
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    Creo Sl

    I agree to all points of mschwett! As I was near 240 lbs I can say that this is not a problem for the frame of the (carbon) Creo, even not offroad. I don't think that there's a general rule that carbon or alloy is stronger. I had good and bad/strong and weak frames of both materials in my life...
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    Considering buying a Turbo Creo - Questions

    Thank you, yes, I found it yesterday on the Speci Website. Strange that there's still a Shimano S-Works version. Didn't someone here mention that he ordered a 2022 Creo Expert also with 1x12 eTap? But I don't see any Creo on the (german) Website with 1x12 apart from the S-Works SRAM. And who...
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    Considering buying a Turbo Creo - Questions

    Some additonal comments after reading your "Gain thread": - Even if the SL motor sound should disturb you at the beginning, you will soon get used to it. The question is more, how will your friends/other riders without a motor react, will they accept it and if not, can you stand it? But as your...
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    Considering buying a Turbo Creo - Questions

    I don't know much about torque differences of hub and middle motors and I don't give much on the torque values manufacturers provide. But I know the differences between middle and hub motors (apart from the Gain) because of riding several different models of each type for a longer period. And...
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    Vado 5.0 SL EQ Battery Optimization?

    Here's my practical thinking: Ride with others and you realize that even 20-30W (that's 10% of the SL power) is enough to let your friends stay behind or to stay among fitter riders. If you use this amount of support all day, you get at least 300 miles and 20.000 feet of climbing out of your...
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    Considering buying a Turbo Creo - Questions

    I forgot to add or to make it clearer: The Creo/SL support is not only more "harmonic" then the Gain/X.35 motor (especially fpr experienced cyclists). It's like all middle motors also much better and reliable and constant uphill/in the mountains, where a small hub motors will reduce power much...
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    Considering buying a Turbo Creo - Questions

    I normally don't like too much likes ;-) but I put one in your OP as your "starting point" with Orbea Gain is very interesting for me. I'm surprised that these are common in the US; I thought they sell them only in Europe. The Gain was the first light/assist ebike I tried in 2018 (Germany, 25kmh...
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    Specialized Creo SL Fender, anyone?

    sWashington wins (thi time) over Canada... ;-) I also can recommend the Speedrockers if you need good&semipermanent fenders. The protection is really good (much better than with the usal quick&easy MTB fenders) but on the other hand you need about a minute to install them each time. I wouldn't...
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    Creo SLE evo @ 18 months

    100% after 18 months and 177 full cycles is great, especially for a small and internal battery. Range or your "feeling of range" also confirms the 100%?
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    How gnarly can you get on an Expert Creo before it breaks?

    And for me, not my kind of video style. I can't follow this "I'm the coolest guy in the world" more than two minutes. Also I don't see much information, at least not in this videao, it could be 20% of the length without losing information... I started with light gravel bike with 35mm and a soft...
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    Need opinions from Creo and Vado SL riders

    I have to add, all this refers to our european 25km/h limit with ridiculous obstacles for 45km/h ebikes. As a good assist drive like SL or Fazua is still fine to ride over 25km/h, it's sometimes an acceptable alternative here for a 45km/h (just slower, but lighter and more agile). Other 25km/h...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    I read somewhere in a bike test, that they measured about 1watt more resistance at the pedals/cranks of a SL bike than a normal bike with a good bottom bracket has. I will sell my Creo! Today!
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    Need opinions from Creo and Vado SL riders

    Neither me... But you started it. Or I just overinterpreted it as "See how much further my Vado gets than your Stromer?"... ;-) There are even longer rides possible without any motor and without limits. ;-) Have you seen that I wrote exactly this in my previous post? Btw if you ask me today...
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    Specialized Turbo Vado SL: An Incredible E-Bike (User Club)

    Good/bad to hear, as I was thinking of a Vado SL if a really good offer for a used one passes by. L is definitely to small for me, but so XL would be too big (as my XL Creo is already slighty too big).
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    Need opinions from Creo and Vado SL riders

    Stefan you get what you pay for. The Stromer is not to heavy or not too thirsty for it's purpose. Neither are the normal Vado or Vado SL/Creo bad or slow ebikes. My ride to work would be about 10% faster with the Stromer than with the normal vado (as this was also the difference to my S-Bosch)...