2020 -Top 10 Ebikes With The Bafang G510 Ultra

TomD

Well-Known Member
I don't think anyone has actually gotten these bikes delivered from Alibaba. I recall seeing Roshan from Biktrix recently commenting on a Facebook group that they had tested this setup and they were seeing unacceptable failure rates for the five-speed Strurmey Archer IGH. It really isn't suited for the torque and power of the Ultra and that is why I believe they don't offer it with this IGH. I recall that RMK is planning to take extra care shifting the IGH and just replace it if it fails. But people should be aware of the issues of this particular setup.

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RMK!

Active Member
Hi RMK, I've also been looking at the same bike on Alibaba, it seems to check a lot of my boxes - front suspension, belt driven, dual battery mid drive, fat tires, hydraulic disc brakes, and high power. Do you have a review for it and a tested capacity for batteries? If it can do at least 40 miles on one battery and can be swapped then I'm practically sold on this bike haha. Thanks for sharing your purchase with us!
This thread is the only "review" of the Bikonit, Bolton versions of this bike. As for battery testing that has not been addressed although Bolton did a speed test that was revealing. In fact the pre-production Bolton HD 750 and MD 1000 are the only examples of these bikes I can find in the US and as Bolton has been letting people test ride these bikes for many months, he could provide empirical data about battery usage and reliability of the drive train if he was so inclined.

It appears others are branding versions of these bikes and they may have some input. I hope to have an MD 1000 before the end of November and will post my observations on the linked thread once I have had a couple of weeks of riding experience.
 
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Yonkk

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SONDORS Mid-Drive 2020 | SONDORS Electric Bikes Sondors Three G510 e bikes with big batteries 48v21h starting at $2000.00 up to $2599.00.
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Rykmann

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Canada
I don't think anyone has actually gotten these bikes delivered from Alibaba. I recall seeing Roshan from Biktrix recently commenting on a Facebook group that they had tested this setup and they were seeing unacceptable failure rates for the five-speed Strurmey Archer IGH. It really isn't suited for the torque and power of the Ultra and that is why I believe they don't offer it with this IGH. I recall that RMK is planning to take extra care shifting the IGH and just replace it if it fails. But people should be aware of the issues of this particular setup.

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I purchased an ASB-EB-31 from the Suzhou Ansbern Sports Co., Ltd.

Bafang G510 Ultra Max Mid Motor 1000W

48V 17ah Samsun Cell

Gates CDX Belt

Sturmey-Archer RSX-RK5 5 speed internal gear hub. (IGH)

BE WARNED: STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!

Here’s why.

When my bike eventually arrived 12 weeks late the first thing I noticed was that the RST Renegade front fork was damaged. I contacted Tony Wong from Suzhou who kept saying that they will speak to their “engineer”. Nothing happened. I eventually sourced spare parts from RST Germany. I repaired the fork and on the first test ride noticed that all was not right with my Sturmey-Archer IGH. Sturmey Archer RSX RK5 noise

After multiple futile attempts to contact Suzhou I contacted Sunrace USA. Their technical person said that Sturmey Archer gears are not designed for mid motors therefore any damage falls outside their warranty.

I thought that I was saving money by “going direct” but honestly, it’s been heartache since day 1. My suggestion is – do yourself a favour, pay the premium, and buy locally from a reputable dealer and stay away from Alibaba – you don’t know who you are dealing with and like me could be taken for a ride (excuse the pun) by charlatans like the Suzhou Ansbern Sports Co., Ltd.

Also don’t think that you are protected by Alibaba, you are not. Alibaba is there to protect the seller. Trust me I learned that the hard way!
 

dunksalot

Member
I purchased an ASB-EB-31 from the Suzhou Ansbern Sports Co., Ltd.

Bafang G510 Ultra Max Mid Motor 1000W

48V 17ah Samsun Cell

Gates CDX Belt

Sturmey-Archer RSX-RK5 5 speed internal gear hub. (IGH)

BE WARNED: STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!

Here’s why.

When my bike eventually arrived 12 weeks late the first thing I noticed was that the RST Renegade front fork was damaged. I contacted Tony Wong from Suzhou who kept saying that they will speak to their “engineer”. Nothing happened. I eventually sourced spare parts from RST Germany. I repaired the fork and on the first test ride noticed that all was not right with my Sturmey-Archer IGH. Sturmey Archer RSX RK5 noise

After multiple futile attempts to contact Suzhou I contacted Sunrace USA. Their technical person said that Sturmey Archer gears are not designed for mid motors therefore any damage falls outside their warranty.

I thought that I was saving money by “going direct” but honestly, it’s been heartache since day 1. My suggestion is – do yourself a favour, pay the premium, and buy locally from a reputable dealer and stay away from Alibaba – you don’t know who you are dealing with and like me could be taken for a ride (excuse the pun) by charlatans like the Suzhou Ansbern Sports Co., Ltd.

Also don’t think that you are protected by Alibaba, you are not. Alibaba is there to protect the seller. Trust me I learned that the hard way!

Oh man. Sorry to hear you are "feeling the bern". I appreciate you sharing as I keep going back and forth in my head about buying a Chinese non-returnable ebike like you. I then look at the Biktrix, Zen Bikes, and Sondors but keep thinking I am simply going to want to buy a better one immediately after that arrives. next level up I like the Luna X1 Enduro but the video of chains falling off and complaints about the lack of support worry me. The Watt Wagons Hydra is so far atop my list right now - best price for carbon fiber full suspension and solid components - nothing that close in my mind.
 

ElevenAD

Well-Known Member
I purchased an ASB-EB-31 from the Suzhou Ansbern Sports Co., Ltd.

Bafang G510 Ultra Max Mid Motor 1000W

48V 17ah Samsun Cell

Gates CDX Belt

Sturmey-Archer RSX-RK5 5 speed internal gear hub. (IGH)

BE WARNED: STAY AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY!

Here’s why.

When my bike eventually arrived 12 weeks late the first thing I noticed was that the RST Renegade front fork was damaged. I contacted Tony Wong from Suzhou who kept saying that they will speak to their “engineer”. Nothing happened. I eventually sourced spare parts from RST Germany. I repaired the fork and on the first test ride noticed that all was not right with my Sturmey-Archer IGH. Sturmey Archer RSX RK5 noise

After multiple futile attempts to contact Suzhou I contacted Sunrace USA. Their technical person said that Sturmey Archer gears are not designed for mid motors therefore any damage falls outside their warranty.

I thought that I was saving money by “going direct” but honestly, it’s been heartache since day 1. My suggestion is – do yourself a favour, pay the premium, and buy locally from a reputable dealer and stay away from Alibaba – you don’t know who you are dealing with and like me could be taken for a ride (excuse the pun) by charlatans like the Suzhou Ansbern Sports Co., Ltd.

Also don’t think that you are protected by Alibaba, you are not. Alibaba is there to protect the seller. Trust me I learned that the hard way!
i keep trying to tell these guys that there is as reason that we all just dont buy Ultras from Alibaba and save tons of cash!
 

ElevenAD

Well-Known Member
i dont know much about BPM but this for sure is a good price for an ULtra with a "huge rack" standard!
$2495 BPM Imports F1000...the integrated rear rack is also a plus for me!
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Rykmann

New Member
Region
Canada
Oh man. Sorry to hear you are "feeling the bern". I appreciate you sharing as I keep going back and forth in my head about buying a Chinese non-returnable ebike like you. I then look at the Biktrix, Zen Bikes, and Sondors but keep thinking I am simply going to want to buy a better one immediately after that arrives. next level up I like the Luna X1 Enduro but the video of chains falling off and complaints about the lack of support worry me. The Watt Wagons Hydra is so far atop my list right now - best price for carbon fiber full suspension and solid components - nothing that close in my mind.
Took a look at the Watt Wagons Hydra - I am in LOve! Wish I had been introduced to this puppy before I decided to "save" by buying thru Alibaba.
 

dunksalot

Member
Took a look at the Watt Wagons Hydra - I am in LOve! Wish I had been introduced to this puppy before I decided to "save" by buying thru Alibaba.

Yes indeed. I am getting tired of drooling while looking at it...may pull the trigger soon. That bike checks every box...nicer than a Specialized Turbo Levo when you consider the power is more important than total weight. I may do a custom color just not sure what I want.
 

RMK!

Active Member
Well, I bought this Ultra motor ebike from the Chinese factory via Alibaba and they are the same factory that supplies several other Ebike companies with their assembled branded bikes (I have photo proof). I paid $3100 delivered to the US. It took a long time, but that is true of all ebike companies due to Covid overwhelming the parts supply chain. The bike eventually arrived on New Years Eve in perfect condition. It has the SA 5 speed IGH with a Gates Belt. I love the SA IGH and I am careful to never pedal while shifting and it is shifting great. The bike is so powerful I don't do a lot of shifting anyway during my typical 30-40 mile rides. Here are some photos, one bare bones and 3 with supplied rack and fenders. I kinda like the racks although the fenders are a little bit cheesy. More info can be found here.
 

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