30 Chinese Cities are on Level 1 lockdown

Thomas Jaszewski

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While much of the world is focused on the coronavirus outbreak, influenza continues to take its toll in the United States, where an estimated 15 million people have been infected and 8,200 have died from the disease so far this flu season.
While the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said those numbers aren't unusually high, they're far higher than the 4,583 cases of coronavirus and 106 deaths confirmed worldwide as of Tuesday morning. Five people have been stricken with coronavirus in the U.S. and no deaths have been reported.
Overall, the World Health Organization estimates that the flu kills up to 650,000 people per year worldwide.
"When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison," Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, told USA Today. "Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial."
CDC officials have also said there is currently little risk of catching coronavirus in the U.S.
(MORE: You Could Get the Flu Twice This Year, Experts Say)
Several schools in the U.S., and in some cases entire districts, have canceled classes in recent days due to a high percentage of students sick with the flu and other seasonal illnesses. Schools were closed Monday and Tuesday in Jefferson County, Tennessee, about 30 miles east of Knoxville, WBIR.com reported. Classes were canceled Friday and Monday in Union County, Tennessee, the report added.
In Ohio, the Zane Trace School District was closed Monday, according to the Chillicothe Gazette.
Zane Trace Superintendent Jerry Mowery told the newspaper on Monday that all activities and classes were canceled and school buildings were disinfected. Mowery estimated that about one in four students in the school system, about 40 miles south of Columbus, had the flu.
"We might be just a little under that, however, we seem to see it increasing in the last couple school days, Thursday to Friday and then today it's kind of hit our staff," he said. "It's rolling into our staff ... and we have it with our bus drivers, so we're getting into personnel."
The Ohio Department of Health reported 566 flu-related hospitalizations statewide in the week of Jan. 12 to Jan. 18, according to the Associated Press, compared to 303 hospitalizations during the same week a year ago.
Public health officials have said this year's flu season is unique because two strains of the virus – influenza B and influenza A – are spreading at almost equal rates.
(MORE: Fitbit Data Could Be Used to Track Flu Outbreaks, Researchers Say)
Influenza B was dominant at the beginning of the season. Since that particular strain doesn't affect older people as much, officials predicted there might be fewer flu deaths this year.
But that also means the flu has hit children especially hard.
At least 54 children have died of the flu this season, according to the CDC, compared to 22 pediatric deaths reported by this time last year. More than 50% of those who have tested positive for the flu have been under the age of 25.
Flu Insights with Watson helps people better assess and prepare for their flu risk, up to 15 days in advance, down to their ZIP code. Check your local risk in The Weather Channel app.
 

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The top scientist who was escorted out of the biolab by police apparently sent live Nipah virus on a commercial flight to China. Some of her Chinese students also were removed.

Ebola and Henipah are Level 4 pathogens, meaning they're some of the deadliest viruses in the world. They must be contained in a lab with the highest level of biosafety control, such as the one in Winnipeg.
Or on a commercial jetliner to China....


Nipah is the virus featured in the modelled fictional novel virus that went out of control.


In other news, another staff member was earlier convicted of smuggling virus out. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/charged-with-smuggling-in-u-s-ex-winnipeg-researcher-cops-a-plea-1.820854
He was sentenced to 17 days in jail but received credit for time already served. He was also fined $500 US.
 
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Findings Of the 99 patients with 2019-nCoV pneumonia, 49 (49%) had a history of exposure to the Huanan seafood market. The average age of the patients was 55·5 years (SD 13·1), including 67 men and 32 women.
Interpretation The 2019-nCoV infection was of clustering onset, is more likely to affect older males with comorbidities
Less than 37% were seniors.
No more than 4 of the 9 who died were seniors. That also means no big preponderance of the dead were the seniors.
 
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Also it's not just about mortality in victims. For some SARS victims the severe and debilitating suffering didn't end with their getting out of hospital.

wiki
Several consequent reports from China on some recovered SARS patients showed severe long-time sequelae. The most typical diseases include, among other things, pulmonary fibrosis, osteoporosis, and femoral necrosis, which have led to the complete loss of working ability or even self-care ability of these cases.
 
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Allison McGeer, an infectious disease consultant at Sinai Health System, who was at the forefront of the Toronto outbreak.
Before: https://globalnews.ca/news/6458609/looking-back-toronto-sars-outbreak/

They clearly did enough right things to control the outbreak,” McGeer said. “Some of the things that were done were not necessary, but there was no way of knowing at the time that they were not necessary.”

According to the doctor, one thing that wasn’t necessary was quarantine.

“When we learned more about the disease, it turns out that SARS is among the unusual infections that was not infectious before people got sick,” McGeer said.

“Retrospectively, we needn’t have quarantined all of those people who were exposed.”
OK then. They didn't need quarantine for mere exposure because...it was not infectious before sickness symptoms appeared.

This outbreak however, IS infectious before symptoms appear, but naturally they pre-decided that


A person with the Wuhan coronavirus could be infectious to others before they know they have the virus, according to China's National Health Commission Minister Ma Xiaowei.

At a Sunday press conference, Ma said someone with the virus could show no symptoms they have the coronavirus anytime between a day and 14 days, CBS News previously reported.



During that time, an asymptomatic person is also infectious and could spread the coronavirus to others, Ma said, which makes it difficult to stop its spread.

Coronavirus symptoms include nasal congestion, headache, cough, sore throat, and a fever, according to infectious disease expert and University of California San Francisco professor Charles Chiu.

"At present, the rate of development of the epidemic is accelerating," Ma said at the press conference. "I am afraid that it will continue for some time, and the number of cases may increase."
 
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The foolish ignorance of some in downplaying this situation using flu analogy is remarkable. Discussion of that pile of absolute ____, later. Think about hospitalization rate, serious complication rate, mortality rate, infection rate, etc.
Meanwhile,

By Jan 2, 2020, 41 admitted hospital patients were identified as laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV infection in Wuhan. 20 [49%]) of the 2019-nCoV-infected patients were aged 25–49 years, and 14 (34%) were aged 50–64 years (figure 1A). The median age of the patients was 49·0 years
No seniors.


13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died.
Non-seniors, 15% mortality rate.
 

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While much of the world is focused on the coronavirus outbreak, influenza continues to take its toll in the United States, where an estimated 15 million people have been infected and 8,200 have died from the disease so far this flu season.

....an estimated 15 million people have been infected and 8,200 have died


More about this kind of analysis later.

While the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said those numbers aren't unusually high, they're far higher than the 4,583 cases of coronavirus and 106 deaths confirmed worldwide as of Tuesday morning.
oh, THAT sounds like a fair comparison.
 

Mike's E-Bikes

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More supplier delays in re-opening after Chinese New Year holiday...


It wouldn't surprise me at all, if we start to see some minor shortages of certain brands models, maybe even affecting battery shipments, beginning in early summer, IF this starts to drag out longer than just a week or so delay of allowing workers to return to factories. The magnitude of the spread and media playing catch up to it, and CDC involvement with China, suggests the data is really lagging on infected counts, etc. Many forecasted school, business, mass gathering event closures, and country wide in Asia, and gathering steam in other countries nearby.

P.S. Given that this is an ebike forum, trying to keep posts relevant to the effect something like this situation may have, and this 2019N-Cov is having an effect on the industry as evidenced now by these publications. Making all the other comparisons to flu or the causes, or mention of source conspiracies, is really for other forums, and political places. Once again, EBR threads unfortunately get hi-jacked by people going off topic, making it political, stirring up emotions, and then others getting into arguments with those people doing the off topic thing. Would be nice to see some self control from a few of the usual re-curring suspects.
 
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More supplier delays in re-opening after Chinese New Year holiday...


It wouldn't surprise me at all, if we start to see some minor shortages of certain brands models, maybe even affecting battery shipments, beginning in early summer, IF this starts to drag out longer than just a week or so delay of allowing workers to return to factories. The magnitude of the spread and media playing catch up to it, and CDC involvement with China, suggests the data is really lagging on infected counts, etc. Many forecasted school, business, mass gathering event closures, and country wide in Asia, and gathering steam in other countries nearby.

P.S. Given that this is an ebike forum, trying to keep posts relevant to the effect something like this situation may have, and this 2019N-Cov is having an effect on the industry as evidenced now by these publications. Making all the other comparisons to flu or the causes, or mention of source conspiracies, is really for other forums, and political places. Once again, EBR threads unfortunately get hi-jacked by people going off topic, making it political, stirring up emotions, and then others getting into arguments with those people doing the off topic thing. Would be nice to see some self control from a few of the usual re-curring suspects.
I wouldn't send ANY large money to China whilst they are in dire straits and complete disarray, unless fully backed by credit card.
Discussion of the disease and control measures is relevant, though, as any of us, ebike riders, that live at Ground 2 may be affected, forget the bike.
But ... bikes provide a measure of insulation for some...dependence on public transport can be greatly reduced.
 
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Ebiker01

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ikes provide a measure of insulation for some...dependence on public transport can be greatly reduced.
i was just researching a few days ago some japanese tents from "Snow cape or peak " outdoor company ! from the other thread of " Camping with ebike" ..


The tent + ebike+ titanium cookpots + a water filter + bear spray repellant + solar panels ?? hopefully we won't have to go force camping anytime soon.
 
Besides ebikes China is a major supplier of the N95 masks. I went by a friends emergency supply company today and got his last box of masks. His suppliers are silent as to when he can expect another shipment. China is taking care of China with its mask production.
 

Ebiker01

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a big protector for flu and other illnesses is SLEEP , children here are FORCE DEPRIVED of Much needed 12hour Mandatory SLEEP. their bodies are not ready until 18/19yo for a 6am wake up time.
Children and young adults shoul sleep min. 11-14hours . Xtra naps in Mondays and on Wenesdays.
Unfortunetly the industrialized nations do not have a great agenda for addressing the mass sleep deprivation issue in young people and adults alike.

in the Tribal places can't sleep b/c need to hunt for food , in industrialized nations can't sleep
b/c need to work...

this is somehow worth contemplating:

all those years down below had a major virus :

1420-
1520-
1620
1720
1820

not sure about 1920, hv to check


update, well it did too.




at least we have the information , all countries should do everything possible to stop this one before it exponentially infects.

Corona antidote: i'm eating a BIG salad of garlic, onions , cayenne pepper, honey, all sprayed with real lime juice and colloidal silver for now.
 
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P.S. Given that this is an ebike forum, trying to keep posts relevant to the effect something like this situation may have, and this 2019N-Cov is having an effect on the industry as evidenced now by these publications. Making all the other comparisons to flu or the causes, or mention of source conspiracies, is really for other forums, and political places. Once again, EBR threads unfortunately get hi-jacked by people going off topic, making it political, stirring up emotions, and then others getting into arguments with those people doing the off topic thing. Would be nice to see some self control from a few of the usual re-curring suspects.
I've opened a Novel Coronavirus thread in Off Topic to relieve some of the diversionary tactics and to open up the disease source topics and related other topics.
 

BrianK

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If anyone is not taking Vitamin D3 supplements, I’d start now.

2000-3000iu per day.

It’s backed up by solid medical evidence, and it’s safe.

Vitamin D for influenza

Vitamin D and Influenza—Prevention or Therapy?

Vitamin D isn’t just necessary for proper respiratory immune function, it dampens down the body’s overreaction to a novel pathogen. Novel viruses are so deadly because the body overreacts, filling the lungs with fluid, leading to Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS).

The SARS outbreak in 2007 was a coronavirus named after this hallmark of its infection. This is also what’s killing victims of the current coronavirus outbreak.
 

Thomas Jaszewski

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“However, no sound scientific studies to evaluate these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration has taken action against some manufacturers of colloidal silver products for making unproven health claims.”
 

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“However, no sound scientific studies to evaluate these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration has taken action against some manufacturers of colloidal silver products for making unproven health claims.”
a few of the articles on related silver properties
 

harryS

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My nephew's wife left Xian yesterday. In laws are happy.

Back to ebikes, some of the widgets I order off ebay from China are shipping. Somthing I ordered yestarday is already in the maii. Meanwhile, no movement on a motor I ordered before the Lunar New Year holiday.
 

Thomas Jaszewski

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My nephew's wife left Xian yesterday. In laws are happy.

Back to ebikes, some of the widgets I order off ebay from China are shipping. Somthing I ordered yestarday is already in the maii. Meanwhile, no movement on a motor I ordered before the Lunar New Year holiday.
Good news! Best wishes for a healthy return!

Our vendors are stuck for a bit. Some orders are coming but we're still in the holiday period slowdown.
 

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Chinese government is fabulous and transparent, according to the top WHO bootlicker's fantastic lie .
Meanwhile in Toronto they seem to be inviting a disastrous outcome. After they fumbled SARS so badly.
A physician who said he developed "a nasty cold with a cough and runny nose" while on a flight from Hong Kong to Toronto is questioning whether there are adequate safeguards to prevent the spread of coronavirus in Canada.

Massey Beveridge, a retired general surgeon, said he was "waved" through Pearson International Airport even after reporting his symptoms to a border services agent.

"My nose is running like Niagara Falls, I'm coughing and feeling pretty miserable," Beveridge told CBC News.

He says he explained his symptoms to the agent and that he was taken to a screened-off area with face masks and hand wash.

"The immigration officer came back a few minutes later and said, 'Here's a handout. You can call public health if you like'," Beveridge added.

"I figured there'd be some kind of public health person coming to interview me."