A sneak peek of the upcoming Euro BH/Easy Motion bikes

[JayVee]

I'm not sure if/when these are coming to the U.S., but for your curiosity we have a sneak peak of (some) upcoming euro BH models:

The Xenion 27.5 has the new Bosch Performance CX drive.

The Revo 27.5 has what some describe as an excellent mid-drive... a Brose engine.

And then we have the Big Foot. A twin drive Fat e-bike. 350 watt rear hub drive, 250 for the front.

Source and Pictures (but French text):

http://www.velovert.com/information/10043/bh-des-nouveautes-electriques#

 

[DWEBiker]

And then we have the Big Foot. A twin drive Fat e-bike. 350 watt rear hub drive, 250 for the front.

Sweet! i want one!

Translated - BH releases its first electric Fat with Big Foot. Its specificity? It has two motors, one located to the rear wheel 350 watts, the other placed in the front wheel develops 250. There are four modes to choose from for assistance: one can choose to activate the front wheel, rear, both, or only at the rear to engage before the front to take over once you reached a certain speed.

 

[George S.]

Nice for off road. The access is difficult in Utah.

I notice Haibike is confused about what to do with street speed Pedelecs.

https://www.haibike.com/de/de

You can run the Google translation, at least in Chrome.

I really wonder what will show up in the US.

 

[JRA]

George, I wasn't aware that all Federal land (BLM?) in Utah was verboten for e bikes? I know there is a list of popular MTB trails around Moab that was discussed last year, including the SlickRock trail which was developed by motorcycles. There is plenty of Federal land that allows motorized use and there should be no problem accessing that, but perhaps I missed something?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.haibike.de/microsites/xduro2/faq/faq_s_pedelecs.html&edit-text=

The big problem across the pond is that they are stuck with the 250w/25kmh statutes. The extra 4 mph we are allowed here is minor compared to the 750w (1000w) legal status we currently have here. For me the top speed of 20 is not all that restrictive for what I see the need for on an e bike. But the extra wattage and the ability to get to that speed either as quickly as possible or while carrying a heavy load or a combination of the two is huge and a big bonus for us here.

I would never jump through the speed pedelec hoops they describe above but instead just get a moped which would cost a lot less either here or across the pond. Sure they are not great at pedaling or pedal able at all but the concept has been around for ages. Still cheap transport in the end and readily available and understood.

 

[pxpaulx]

The real problem is the shot themselves in the foot long ago with a 25kph limit, which is comically slow.

 

[pxpaulx]

Man that is a great looking fat bike, hahaha - of course they go and butcher it with some shimano tourney gearing.

 

[George S.]

George, I wasn't aware that all Federal land (BLM?) in Utah was verboten for e bikes? I know there is a list of popular MTB trails around Moab that was discussed last year, including the SlickRock trail which was developed by motorcycles. There is plenty of Federal land that allows motorized use and there should be no problem accessing that, but perhaps I missed something?

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.haibike.de/microsites/xduro2/faq/faq_s_pedelecs.html&edit-text=

The big problem across the pond is that they are stuck with the 250w/25kmh statutes. The extra 4 mph we are allowed here is minor compared to the 750w (1000w) legal status we currently have here. For me the top speed of 20 is not all that restrictive for what I see the need for on an e bike. But the extra wattage and the ability to get to that speed either as quickly as possible or while carrying a heavy load or a combination of the two is huge and a big bonus for us here.

I would never jump through the speed pedelec hoops they describe above but instead just get a moped which would cost a lot less either here or across the pond. Sure they are not great at pedaling or pedal able at all but the concept has been around for ages. Still cheap transport in the end and readily available and understood.

Most of the lower lands are BLM, grazing land. Most of it is open to anything. There are some heavily used trails that seem to be in a Conservation Area (Red Cliffs NCA), which is more like a Wilderness Area. I sent an email to the BLM to see if the policy around Moab is local or state or whatever. Almost everything is signed "No Motors" if there are any restrictions at all. If BLM says anything, I'll post it.

I think it's the heavily traveled scenic stuff where you get motor restrictions. They had a big rec symposium where the ebike people were represented, a state-wide agenda. Not enough ebikers to put much pressure on anyone, now. The ATV'ers are very vocal and confrontational. Most of the time it is better to find an open area and just ride. I can hike the closed stuff. It's not a big deal.

People will have to think about the speed, once they start restricting what the fast bikes can do. I'll stay under 20. I hope they leave that alone. The high wattage lets people use fat tire bikes, carry loads, and get up hills with cheap motors.

 

[stevenast]

I'm not sure if/when these are coming to the U.S., but for your curiosity we have a sneak peak of (some) upcoming euro BH models:

The Xenion 27.5 has the new Bosch Performance CX drive.

The Revo 27.5 has what some describe as an excellent mid-drive... a Brose engine.

And then we have the Big Foot. A twin drive Fat e-bike. 350 watt rear hub drive, 250 for the front.

Source and Pictures (but French text):

http://www.velovert.com/information/10043/bh-des-nouveautes-electriques#

So is the "Big Foot" basically the "Snow"?