Ahoy...New ebiker located in Japan

Biaviian

New Member
Region
Asia
Hi, I've been creeping around this forum for a while now, finally joined.

Been interested in ebikes but was not ready to pull the trigger on that kinda $$$. A few months back I discovered the DIY versions (ie bafang) and this was right up my alley. Im a natural tinkerer, so I think I may have found a new hobby that's going to end up costing me more than a true ebike.

Ordered a 48v 500w mid-drive from em3ev and watching that tracking number make it's through china on it's way here.
 

Scott Adams

Active Member
It's been a few years now, but I've had good experiences ordering from em3ev.

If you enjoy fixing things and electronics, then you've got two hobbies in one! Have fun.

I'd visit Hakko if I were nearby - fantastic soldering gear.
 

ngl

Member
Region
USA
City
Northern LP, MI
I had good luck with em3ev too on a couple MAC hub motor setups and I think I have at least 4 batteries from them too - also not recent, but they were really good at the time and I still run those kits. They were my first and only high power/off road setups. I have 3 5 bafang mid drives and I've been pretty pleased with all of them. I took mine apart and did some of that red locktite on the bearing races/regreased the things with that mobile 28 aircraft grease or whatever it is called, and they've all treated me well so far too! I hope you'll be pleased with them, I think you will! :)

edit: you know it's bad when you forget how many ebikes of a certain type you have...
 

Biaviian

New Member
Region
Asia
So far they have been great. They got back to me very quickly to all my questions. When it came time to ship my order, it turned out there was a remote area charge from the handler; em3ev covered this cost.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
Hi, I've been creeping around this forum for a while now, finally joined.

Been interested in ebikes but was not ready to pull the trigger on that kinda $$$. A few months back I discovered the DIY versions (ie bafang) and this was right up my alley. Im a natural tinkerer, so I think I may have found a new hobby that's going to end up costing me more than a true ebike.

Ordered a 48v 500w mid-drive from em3ev and watching that tracking number make it's through china on it's way here.
I don't know if you can get Bafang products in Japan unless you personally import them from China?

I heard that virtually nobody rides Bafang powered ebikes in Japan.
Approx. 90% of ebikes are Japanese made, Bridgestone is the largest ebike company, followed by Panasonic, Yamaha, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Kawasaki, etc.
Honda and Toyota pulled out of ebike market back in 1990s.
Hitachi and Toshiba used to make some, but I don't believe they have ebikes anymore.
Although I believe Toshiba is the battery supplier for Yamaha (if I'm not wrong)?
The rest of 10% of market share is European / American / Taiwanese ebikes like Bianchi, KTM, Trek, Specialized, Tern, Giant.

Also, cadence sensored ebikes are illegal in Japan, you can only get torque sensored ebikes.

I think Bafang entered Japanese market 1 or 2 years ago (at least they tried), but nobody is buying no brand name motor like Bafang.
(I heared Bafang isn't well known in Japan, so people have been very skeptical about it)
 

Biaviian

New Member
Region
Asia
Most people here are skeptical because they are made in China, and because like you said there are large Japanese makers producing ebikes. I'm not sure about the cadence sensor legality, or how it would be known when you import yourself. My cousin is JNP, who had told me only to really be concerned with the motor that can speed up higher than 24km/hr under its own speed. I would not have a throttle so am not worried about that, but also I live in a very remote location in the Tohoku area, not a big city where I would have to worry about police inspection of the motor.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
Most people here are skeptical because they are made in China, and because like you said there are large Japanese makers producing ebikes. I'm not sure about the cadence sensor legality, or how it would be known when you import yourself. My cousin is JNP, who had told me only to really be concerned with the motor that can speed up higher than 24km/hr under its own speed. I would not have a throttle so am not worried about that, but also I live in a very remote location in the Tohoku area, not a big city where I would have to worry about police inspection of the motor.
I'm not familiar with Japanese laws so don't quote me on this, but cadence sensor was never legal in Japan because Japanese government govern the power by the percentage of leg power.
I believe it was 300% assistance was max allowed. Cadence sensor can not measure the actual torque input.
So, whoever has more leg power will get more assistance.