All rounder for a tall person needed.

Carde

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As a normal bike rider who has a minor issue with overheating, I am really looking towards a good al rounder ebike to handle both my home-work traffic and some off roading which I want to get a start at. I am EU based currently in this rather flat place, but I am looking at a move in not to much of a time span to somewhere a little more hilly. I am a tall person with long legs so anything small is a no go and I do carry some weight around naturally, plus a little excess I am working on reducing. That that I am not to worried about it as long as we avoid aluminum rims and spokes in the wheels, those can and will bend, but I have zero issue with standard steel stuff.

Naturally legally the limit is 250W 25Kph around these parts, but this may be wonderfully ignored. I am not looking to go 40+, but I normally go 30-35Kph regulary on my way home on my unsupported bike when I do not have to worry about arriving like I just rode through a thunderstorm. The main reason to want support is to deal with this heat issue and also rain as well a lot of the times something that stops the rain from making you wet, also stops you from drying up, gore tex and all the other nonsense be well nonsense in my experience

What is important is a need for a belt drive and naturally good hydrolic disk breaks, this is not going to be a workhorse of a ebike and will be used in all weather conditions and chains and gears just do not take it well at the best of times with me, let alone with the weather included. Downside of long legs is a lot of force and I know I should start in a lower gear, but meh :D I know th belt might not be ideal for the offroady stuff, but I just want to dip in some toes, if I want to do more with it down the line I will adjust accordingly. Some suspension would be lovely period though, currently I have none and while this is fine 99% of the time for my current home-work traffic sometimes you hit something just wrong and your wrists will hate you.

Other minor, but must have needs: Fenders (it rains, a lot) and a rear baggage rack. Light be nice, but can always find a solution for those, so not to worried about that, same could be with fenders I guess, just more hassle. I do prefer a standard triangle frame, just perference, but the step through never look exactly right to my eyes and well it is the only area wrongly or not I do worry about the strain on the frame with my conditions.

Budget wise I am looking to stick to €2500-3500 (Eddies or USD also acceptable, if it can be shipped to the EU within reason). If sacrifices have to be made, as very well might be, after all we all want the moon for the penny it will need to seen what is best to drop. If I had effectively unlimited funds I do not think I would be asking here, but be on the site of Riese und Müller or the likes already ;)
 

Dewey

Well-Known Member
The trouble is something like a Trek Allant+ 9S that has the features you're looking for is two grand above your budget. Can you compromise on the belt drive? There are eMTB or gravel ebikes with a derailleur for your budget. Cube Kathmandu is a well regarded all-rounder with fenders, rack, and large size frames.
 

Carde

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Region
Europe
Main reason for the belt driver is cost reduction and maintenance ease. On a normal bike I went through 2 chains and 1 cassette a year already, it does add up quickly vs the belt I switched to which is still as it came from factory.
 

Dewey

Well-Known Member
Are you within reasonable distance of the Netherlands? The Tweedehandsfietsen used ebike store can ship to any bike shop in the Netherlands or you can arrange delivery from their warehouse in Amersfoort near Utrecht. They have bikes in large sizes such as this Gazelle Ultimate 380 in 57cm size that would suit a rider 6'-6'2". It has a Gates Belt, Enviolo 380 CVT, and a short monoshock crown suspension but you may be able to upgrade to the Suntour Mobie 45 suspension fork which is what is fitted to the Ultimate C380+ model sold in the US so its worth checking with Gazelle.
 
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TrevorB

Active Member
Cube and Gazelle have few IGH bikes with belt drive and enclosed chains. The enclosed chain are cheaper and only need oil every few months plus replacement parts are cheap. Most of IGH bikes are commuters with 50-65mm shocks which aren't ideal for offroad explorer, trekking bikes with 80-100mm are better option but IGHs are rear.

Checkout bike-discount.de for complete range of Cubes, even you don't buy from them there webpage is easier than Cubes for viewing specs etc.

For offroad go for +65nm motors eg Bosch PerformanceLine and CX.
 

john peck

Well-Known Member
As a normal bike rider who has a minor issue with overheating, I am really looking towards a good al rounder ebike to handle both my home-work traffic and some off roading which I want to get a start at. I am EU based currently in this rather flat place, but I am looking at a move in not to much of a time span to somewhere a little more hilly. I am a tall person with long legs so anything small is a no go and I do carry some weight around naturally, plus a little excess I am working on reducing. That that I am not to worried about it as long as we avoid aluminum rims and spokes in the wheels, those can and will bend, but I have zero issue with standard steel stuff.

Naturally legally the limit is 250W 25Kph around these parts, but this may be wonderfully ignored. I am not looking to go 40+, but I normally go 30-35Kph regulary on my way home on my unsupported bike when I do not have to worry about arriving like I just rode through a thunderstorm. The main reason to want support is to deal with this heat issue and also rain as well a lot of the times something that stops the rain from making you wet, also stops you from drying up, gore tex and all the other nonsense be well nonsense in my experience

What is important is a need for a belt drive and naturally good hydrolic disk breaks, this is not going to be a workhorse of a ebike and will be used in all weather conditions and chains and gears just do not take it well at the best of times with me, let alone with the weather included. Downside of long legs is a lot of force and I know I should start in a lower gear, but meh :D I know th belt might not be ideal for the offroady stuff, but I just want to dip in some toes, if I want to do more with it down the line I will adjust accordingly. Some suspension would be lovely period though, currently I have none and while this is fine 99% of the time for my current home-work traffic sometimes you hit something just wrong and your wrists will hate you.

Other minor, but must have needs: Fenders (it rains, a lot) and a rear baggage rack. Light be nice, but can always find a solution for those, so not to worried about that, same could be with fenders I guess, just more hassle. I do prefer a standard triangle frame, just perference, but the step through never look exactly right to my eyes and well it is the only area wrongly or not I do worry about the strain on the frame with my conditions.

Budget wise I am looking to stick to €2500-3500 (Eddies or USD also acceptable, if it can be shipped to the EU within reason). If sacrifices have to be made, as very well might be, after all we all want the moon for the penny it will need to seen what is best to drop. If I had effectively unlimited funds I do not think I would be asking here, but be on the site of Riese und Müller or the likes already ;)
Wish I could help, but EU restrictions have cancelled out my suggestion
 

john peck

Well-Known Member
Share it, please as mentioned those restrictions can be ignored for this.
Cheap, strong, durable, daily driver: NCM moscow, Take care of it & it´ll give good service;
a long time. See: EBR review.
 

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