Archon X1 Programming Thread (questions and experiences)

scrambler

Active Member
I am opening this thread as WW is shipping a programming cable for the X1 upgraded motors and I assume others like me below will have questions, or may want to share their own programming experience and results.

After watching the WW dec 9th Video below
Archon X1 Programming - Creating Ride Profiles - YouTube

I have a first question.
The biggest advantage of a Torque sensing based pedal assist is the fact that the power delivered is directly proportional to the power you put in on the pedals. Because of that, the power delivered is directly modulated by the pressure you apply on the pedal, making it feel natural but superhuman.

So normally the various level of assist correspond to power multipliers like for example:
level 1 would add 100% of the input power => Result is 2X the pedaling power (you apply 100W you get 200W, you apply 200W you get 400W)
level 2 would add 200% of the input power => Result is 3X the pedaling power (you apply 100W you get 300W, you apply 200W you get 600W)
level 3 would add 300% of the input power => Result is 4X the pedaling power (you apply 100W you get 400W, you apply 200W you get 800W)

Watching the Video, I am not sure which of the parameters is supposed to set that multiplier if any.

@pushkar, can you confirm if / which one of the parameters is setting the multiplier between the input and the assist provided by the motor?

Thank you and a happy new year to all! :)
 

Andy5

New Member
I have Innotrace controller X1 with programming cable only one month. Bafang ultra / max 28A according the controller / 52V battery 14S6P= 30Ah-Samsung 50E. My controller was bought with all parameters to 100% (or 10), only sensitivity varied according to the level of assistance, which is a typical setting for about 90% of users (according to Pushkar). But it doesn't suit me - all levels are set to maximum, they differ only in sensitivity. In this setting, even the lowest level of assistance provides too much power (at least 300W-according to the display 850C). I am used to a wider range from about 150W to 1500W in 9 levels at the factory controller for about 2 years. I enclose a table of the current settings with this wider range, as the best setting for me now. Torque and Sensitivity is now OK, maybe Motor torque could be higher.
In my opinion, the percentage increase in power according to the own pressure on the pedal can not be set by only a single parameter, but by a combination of Torque and Sensitivity. I like seeing experience of others with their settings.
Level of assistance
Torque %
Throttle %
Sensitivity Torque
level
Speed Torque
km/h
Speed Throttle
km/h
Motor torque
level

0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
10
50
1
100
100
5
2
15
50
1
100
100
5
3
20
50
2
100
100
5
4
30
50
2
100
100
5
5
40
72
3
100
100
5
6
50
100
3
100
100
5
7
60
100
4
100
100
5
8
80
100
4
100
100
5
9
100
100
5
100
100
5
10​
0​
0​
0​
0
0
0​
 

scrambler

Active Member
Is there a document that clearly explains what each parameter does, because I am confused about torque % vs Sensitivity torque vs motor torque level...
 

greeno

Active Member
Region
USA
City
San Diego
As far as settings for the Innotrace goes here's mine and I am happy with these.

Torque setting: Level 0 - 0, Levels 1-9 - 10
Throttle setting: Level 0 - 0, Levels 1-9 - 10
Sensitivity Torque: Level 0 - 0, Levels 1-9 - 10
Max Speed Torque: Level 0 - 0, Levels 1-9 - 10
Max Speed Throttle: Level 0 - 0, Levels 1-9 - 10
Motor Torque: Level 0 - 3, Levels 1-9 - 10

Throttle, Sensitivity Torque, and Motor Torque were set at different settings when originally purchased. Throttle was restricted ( 50% ) which made it kinda useless so setting it to 10 made a big improvement.