Are We Condemned to Strava?

Stefan Mikes

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Europe
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Brwinów (PL)
Thanks Stefan, I tried however it doesn’t work for me at all. Because it’s not aware of the bicycling routes. Here’s a great example- I started and ended a simple route along the River on the most traveled bike road in Tokyo - Mapy chose the motor vehicle roadways. RWGPS nailed it - for 125km even in much more complex terrain- using its heat map dataset as well I’m sure.

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Mapy.cz works better than Google Maps in North America. It is based on Open Street Maps, which may not handle Japan well.
 

VoltMan99

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Asia
City
Tokyo
It is not in RWGPS. The whole point.
So what does an E-BIKE option in Strava do for YOU? It doesn’t even give you a calculation of your human power! You could also have a tag that said you were riding a JACKASS and it would be just as meaningful 🤣
 

fooferdoggie

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So what does an E-BIKE option in Strava do for YOU? It doesn’t even give you a calculation of your human power! You could also have a tag that said you were riding a JACKASS and it would be just as meaningful 🤣
strava under rate wattage even when it is included in the upload. when I uploaded a ride from my Nyon it included my average watts and strava just used its standard amount it usually does. pn our tandem it overrates our wattage.
 

Stefan Mikes

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Europe
City
Brwinów (PL)
It doesn’t even give you a calculation of your human power!
It does. It would be rather funny if the world's largest road cycling site wouldn't have done that. If you have no other tool, Strava will estimate your power (it makes the estimate differently for Ride and E-Bike Ride). If you use a HR monitor, the estimates will be far more accurate. If you connect your e-bike, the measured values of power and cadence will be shown.

Why e-bike category?
  • To not obscure the leader-boards of honestly struggling traditional cyclists with efforts of e-bikers
  • To allow e-bikers competing.
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Here, the E-Bike King and Queen Of Mountain for a downhill road segment in Owl Mountains in Poland. All people listed in the leader-board were e-bikers. Necessary to mention traditional roadies had faster times there (in their own leader-board).

There are several exciting features of Strava:
  • Strava Beacon: Allowing your relatives or friends track your ride in real time. Helping a lot in case you have had a crash on your ride. Now, the Beacon is accessible by all users (it was available for subscribers only before )
  • Strava Segments: If a subscriber uses a Garmin Edge, a segment will be automatically displayed on your bike computer. You are able to race with the "shadow" of the current KOM or QOM.
  • Reporting cheaters. I was deprived of my own KOM in Czech Republic by a motorbiker. The guy was as stupid as to post pictures of his motorbike for that ride. I reported on him, and my own KOM was restored.
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My brother would have won that race but he got cold because of cold wind, and stopped to pull his windbreaker on :) He was short of me by a second!

An interesting story. There is a Category 2 climb segment at some place in the Kłodzko Valley. An e-biker Andrzej was third there. He, however, won the downhill race with us!

P.S. Me and brother tried Category 4 climbs as well. We were hopeless compared to other e-bikers there.
 

mschwett

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USA
Mapy.cz works better than Google Maps in North America. It is based on Open Street Maps, which may not handle Japan well.
i gave it a try. definitely better cycle routing here in northern california than google maps, but it's quite sluggish and the interface is a little clunky compared to rwGPS. the main thing that would keep me from using it is the speed. on a very fast internet connection rwGPS is basically instant for zooming, panning, and moving waypoints around to see the effect on distance and elevation profile. i've become spoiled.
 

Stefan Mikes

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Region
Europe
City
Brwinów (PL)
i gave it a try. definitely better cycle routing here in northern california than google maps, but it's quite sluggish and the interface is a little clunky compared to rwGPS. the main thing that would keep me from using it is the speed. on a very fast internet connection rwGPS is basically instant for zooming, panning, and moving waypoints around to see the effect on distance and elevation profile. i've become spoiled.
Did you download your local offline map in Mapy.cz? My experience is totally different!
 

mschwett

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USA
Did you download your local offline map in Mapy.cz? My experience is totally different!

no, i see no obvious option to do so. perhaps a premium feature.

not necessary on other platforms with a fast connection. not surprising that it would be more sluggish since it does appear to be hosted from the czech republic. from my location, twice as many hops on the trace, 26ms vs 168ms.
 

Stefan Mikes

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Europe
City
Brwinów (PL)
no, i see no obvious option to do so. perhaps a premium feature.

not necessary on other platforms with a fast connection. not surprising that it would be more sluggish since it does appear to be hosted from the czech republic. from my location, twice as many hops on the trace, 26ms vs 168ms.
Not having an argument with you! :) There's no "premium" Mapy.cz. After you have downloaded the maps to your smartphone app, nothing is hosted from the Czech Republic. To each their own, anyway!