For me personally I'd have to go for the Rip Current S, as the large battery was probably the #1 reason I went with the bike. If this is not a priority for you, then it's a harder choice. QC and Support are a couple of Juiced weaknesses, and support is likely a strength of Bolton. The SRAM components on the Blackbird look nice, the fork is likely better than the Rip Current as they changed that at the last minute and I'm not even sure what they are shipping today. There are no real independent reviews, and not enough average reviews to get a sense yet and this last revision has quite a few changes, so you just have to do your research. The Rip Current/S are proven bikes. Check actual dimensions also the Rip is a big bike. Unfortunately until the bikes get to customer hands, it seem the manufacture's weights are often optimistic. The new Torque Sensor on the blackbird has no feedback yet, so that's a higher risk. The 16Ah Battery with Panasonic cells should be a good battery. I would be changing the seat post on either bike so that dropper seat post is not really valuable, this is not a heavy duty mountain bike that needs a dropper post.Would you recommend this bike or would you recommend the rip current s from juiced?
Islander1 I agree with your last sentence regarding fat tires. I was impressed ascI looked at Bolton but I dont want/need fat tires and all of their models I would want are fat tires. I dont know why they seem so focused on fat tired models, I think they are losing out on a large market.
An adjustable stem is really nice, I recommend them. However, cannot compare directly to the RCS (which does not have one), because the RCS has riser handlebars and tilting them gives you some of the adjustability of the adjustable stem. If one is looking for an upright riding position, the RCS pretty much as you covered, but may not give you as much flexibility but at the same time a superior upright position.New to the Bolton Blackbird is an adjustable stem. High points for that. Also dropper seat post among others. I am not sure about Juiced having this important feature. Adjustability is key to finding a comfortable fit on a mail order ebikes. Bolton might offer battery upgrades if asked. I'm impressed with Bolton. I just don't need fat tires for road or light trail riding.
Blackbird on order for November delivery!! Looking forward to seeing some reviews soon from the August batch (think it's been delayed though?)!
1) Comes with a dropper seat post, seems like a cool idea, but is a Thudbuster a better option for rails to trails (unpaved gravel) for more comfort? Guess there's no way to combine the two!!
2) Is a chain stay guard/ protector a good idea or a needless accessory? Also saw something called a STFU (yea really!!) chain 'guide', gimmick or good?
3) Is a rear derailleur guard a good idea or needless accessory?
4) General fat tyre ebike question, what do you do for preventing and fixing flats while out? Would hate to be 10+ miles from base and get a rear flat with not knowing how to fix or having the tools/pump to complete the process. Specifically do you carry a pump and if so what do you have?
4) For those that get theirs, what are you thinking of doing for water bottles? Something like the Topeak frame wrap to std water bottle cage?
5) For those ordering one, what other mods or accessories are you considering?
6 Shock pump needed? I'll have an incoming Blackbird, my wife will have a Stunner LT if that makes a difference
Thanks for all those that contribute, look forward to hearing from you!