I would have to agree with that sentiment, for me it's winter MC clothing. That being said I don't want, what may happen to dictate what I do. I believe you and I had this conversation 6 months ago about these ebikes being disposable forms of transport. I don't want to hasten that end and since my bike is far more modest than yours and I'm planning on a replacement at the end of the year, so maybe it's easier for me to say that.I get caught in the rain from time to time and thank the bike for being protected but I don't choose to bike in rain deliberately. I applaud the confidence and perhaps my lack of confidence is unwarranted. I just know that a brand new bike and a two year old bike with thousands of miles on it will differ in their susceptibility to water. It sort of reminds me of buying waterproof neoprene gloves for winter sea kayaking. They are totally dry for the first 10 or so outing but then slowly the stitches loosen up, the seams get stressed due to the stretching during usage and the UV rays start to affect the fabric...and the gloves start to leak.
Agreed: water resistant, not water proof. Mud resistant, not mud proof.
If you go over that line, it's your call, have fun! It is also your dollars for the repairs.
Applies to ANY brand e-bike.
If mud isn't a concern, then it is no issue at all.
There is already a thread on the mud issue, please sling your mud there
On the flip side.
Bosch are now offering free replacement motors for the classic line. Many of us suffered problems with the motor, myself included.
Classic line motors suffered from the chain frequently jumping off, and this is rumoured to be why the switch to a smaller sprocket came about. Whether that is true or not I don't know, but my old motor certainly used to loose the chain alot.
The performance line motor has an across board issue with chain suck in wet or sticky conditions, this includes mine. I have now remedied this myself.
The main German pedelec forum reports Nyon bezels breaking without any interference, this has also happened to mine, but thankfully Bosch were quick to replace this under warranty.
The plastic cover behind the front sprocket is also only stuck on with adhesive. Mine has torn off, so leaving the motor partially exposed.
Increasing numbers of Nyon users are suffering software issues, and are reportedly giving up on the system. I'm also giving up on it, but mine is for the sole reason that it isn't designed for mtb use. What use is a widescreen television on an mtb. It's too big and vulnerable to be of any use off road. I've had no software issues, but I haven't carried out any updates, which is when the problems appear to start.
As Court has shown in another thread, several mtb users are concerned about water sitting in the battery tray. That is also a concern of mine, as the contacts are seemingly always wet after a ride.
I'm also not totally convinced that the performance motor has the correct internal gearing for mtb use. There is something amiss with it, as there is the requirement to use lower final drive gearing than what should really be required or expected.
Personally I feel that if Bosch don't up their game, they will fall by the way side to Yamaha, possibly Shimano, and even 8fun, although I have yet to try or see the last two systems. Given the choice with it's larger front sprocket, neater design and stronger looking build quality, the Yamaha would get my vote every time.
Bosch have done the right thing by offering replacement motors, but quite why it has taken so long is beyond me. I guess that just have a pile of new old stock motors to shift.
Technical support is growing, and Bosch do appear to offer superb technical support and training. That could be the spanner in the works for my previously mentioned motors. Time will tell.
I am having a huge problem with chain suck om my cube bike fitted with a bosch performance line. You say you have remedied this problem.
What have you done to solve it?
I only ride on-road and wet conditions = chain suck.
My best guess is to replace the front 15T sprocket with the 20T...