Can 2019 Rad Rover rims be converted to tubeless?

Pay Jota

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Not very familiar with the process of conversion, but there is plenty of info online. Are the stock Rad Rover rims capable of the conversion? My tires are tubeless ready.
 

Jimbo08

Active Member
There will be all kinds of opinion on this subject, but having done a few hundred conversions, unless a rim and tire are tubeless , your likely asking for a lot of work and most likely heartache in the end. And in a true fat bike tire there is lots of room for error and wasted sealant. And riding a loose tire off a rim isn't much fun.
 

Jimbo08

Active Member
What tire is it? According to Maxxis website Minion comes in 2.6 both in 27.5 and 29er, and up to 2.5 in 26. It's a beautiful tire for it's intended purpose, but being a DH oriented tire, in a 4.8 width it would probably win the award for heaviest fat bike tire.
 

Pay Jota

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It's the 26 inch version. I have the FBF and FBR tires. 4.8". What do you mean by "DH oriented tire"?

Heavy? Yes, I suppose so, not being very familiar with MTB tires. Everything about this bike is heavy. But these tires are so superior to the original, stock Kendas.

I am not a hard core rider, as I approach 68, but I love riding in generally flat, lush desert in Mexico, which means my share of encounters with cacti. These tires allow me to crawl along and out of sandy arroyos that sometime have ELEVATION gains of 30+ feet with gravel or sandy inclines. PA5, 1st gear, all the way up.

Dropping to 8 psi, I can ride on beaches if loose sand is no deeper than about six inches with hard pack underneath. Great for surf fishing on long stretches of beach. I can stay off the wet sand and avoid the ravages of salt corrosion.

My more hard core riding friends say they simply dont get flats with tubeless tires. Just sealant and the tire. Cholla are the main dangers. Some goat heads, too.
 
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mrgold35

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I had my Radrovers since 2016 with +7200 miles between them. I do a combo of work commuting and single track riding and had flats from both types of riding (sharp branches on trails or road debris when commuting). I use a combo of Vee8 120tpi tires, Kenda or Vee tubes, Mr. Tuffy liners, and two 2-oz bottles of Stans tire sealant per tire. I'm well protected against goat-head stickers. Having a spare replacement tube was the only way to get me back on the road with a 1/8 to 1/4 inch hole in my tire. Going tubeless would have left me stranded 5-15 miles from work or home at least 5-6 times in the last 4 1/2 years.

I haven't checked in a while; but, fat tires don't seem to up to the same level of flat/puncture resistance as plus size or thinner width tires. My old Kenda tires were horrible at getting flats from goat heads because of the spaced out knobbies and how thin the tires was in between the knobbies. It wasn't until I switched to the thicker Vee8 tires with 20X more knobbies is when my goat head flats went down to 1-3 a year compared to 1-3 per month with Kenda tires.
 

Pay Jota

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I had my Radrovers since 2016 with +7200 miles between them. I do a combo of work commuting and single track riding and had flats from both types of riding (sharp branches on trails or road debris when commuting). I use a combo of Vee8 120tpi tires, Kenda or Vee tubes, Mr. Tuffy liners, and two 2-oz bottles of Stans tire sealant per tire. I'm well protected against goat-head stickers. Having a spare replacement tube was the only way to get me back on the road with a 1/8 to 1/4 inch hole in my tire. Going tubeless would have left me stranded 5-15 miles from work or home at least 5-6 times in the last 4 1/2 years.

I haven't checked in a while; but, fat tires don't seem to up to the same level of flat/puncture resistance as plus size or thinner width tires. My old Kenda tires were horrible at getting flats from goat heads because of the spaced out knobbies and how thin the tires was in between the knobbies. It wasn't until I switched to the thicker Vee8 tires with 20X more knobbies is when my goat head flats went down to 1-3 a year compared to 1-3 per month with Kenda tires.
I have basically the same setup, with the exception of using Slime instead of Stans sealant. "Jumping" cholla still an issue.
 

mrgold35

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I have basically the same setup, with the exception of using Slime instead of Stans sealant. "Jumping" cholla still an issue.
I've learn to never pull out any thorn until I get home because that might keep the tire from going flat. Learned the hard way the first time I pulled them out from the prickly pear type cactus (prickly pear are delicious on the grill when you add them to fajitas).
 

Pay Jota

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I've learn to never pull out any thorn until I get home because that might keep the tire from going flat. Learned the hard way the first time I pulled them out from the prickly pear type cactus (prickly pear are delicious on the grill when you add them to fajitas).
Yeah, I agree.

I felt very fortunate when I got home and put the bike to bed for the evening, without any sign of something wrong. Then, I woke up to a complete flat in the morning. I figured it must be a really slow leak. So, I re-inflated and it was completely flat within an hour. I was lucky to get home. Turns out there were four cholla spines that had made it through the tire, liner, tube and Slime. Probably not all from the same ride.
 

fooferdoggie

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Yeah, I agree.

I felt very fortunate when I got home and put the bike to bed for the evening, without any sign of something wrong. Then, I woke up to a complete flat in the morning. I figured it must be a really slow leak. So, I re-inflated and it was completely flat within an hour. I was lucky to get home. Turns out there were four cholla spines that had made it through the tire, liner, tube and Slime. Probably not all from the same ride.
I get that I go to the store come out and the tire is flat.
 

Tars Tarkas

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Nothing you do will eliminate flats, but I'd probably just add more Slime and keep the tubes. Going tubeless isn't the panacea it's made out to be.

TT
 

ki11a

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I was under the impression that all you needed was tubeless ready tires for going tubeless, oh and a rim that doesnt have those weight saving cut outs.