It would be nice if this remote, say, mounted on the inside of a brake hood, could wirelessly change the assist level of a bike running Ebikemotion. Anyone tried this?
Oh wow. Like what button on the Garmin do you press to change assist levels?I don't know for sure if the remote works, but I have an Edge 1030 that can change the assist level (older Edge computers can't). The Edge is paired to the bike through BT and not ANT+. If the remote is paired to the Edge it might work, but if it's meant to be paired directly to the bike then you may need the Ebikemotion ANT+ adapter.
Ok wow that's very helpful.I have an Argon 18 Subito e-gravel bike: https://www.argon18.com/en/bikes/electric/egravel
I don't know if the bike brand makes any difference since the x35 systems appear to be the same across bike brands. I think I did see somewhere that the newer (2020+) bikes are more compatible pairing with Garmin devices, maybe on one of the Garmin forums. But I had no problems pairing my bike to the Edge 1030 and it worked flawlessly. My Edge 820 paired too but wasn't able to display anything without an additional IQ app. I use this app instead to display battery life and assist level (it doesn't change assist level though): https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/1532f0d9-fd19-4b63-b038-435d8fd670a4
Here's Wilier's ANT+ conversion kit. https://wilier.com/en/products/int/accessories/ant-conversion-kit-mahle-x35-ebikemotion-system.
Depending on which brand bike you have, you should be able to get it from a dealer similar to how you can get the Ebikemotion extender battery. My LBS is an Orbea, Argon 18 and Pinarello dealer so I have options. Though you may not need the adapter if you have an Edge computer and are pairing the remote through the Edge and not directly to the bike. Based on the product page it requires an Edge to work so I think that's correct but I would check on that to make sure. Making sure you have the correct Edge that will work with your bike is more important IMO.
Same! But if I follow your logic, on an eBikemotion equipped e-bike, you ought to be able to add that Willier ANT+ conversion kit and then the Garmin remote bike would change the assist, regardless of which Garmin head unit you were using?I agree with you there! I have a Varia though that I use to view most of my data in ride. I’m a better geek than cyclist LOL
Should. But we are also dealing with Garmin logic here. According to the product page it will work with most of their current and previous generation head units, so it makes sense. The instructions say to pair the remote with both the bike and the head unit so the bike definitely needs ANT+ for this particular remote to work. https://static.garmin.com/pumac/eBike_Remote_QSM.pdfSame! But if I follow your logic, on an eBikemotion equipped e-bike, you ought to be able to add that Willier ANT+ conversion kit and then the Garmin remote bike would change the assist, regardless of which Garmin head unit you were using?
Doe anyone know what other Garmin head units permit the X35 Assist Level change functionality? Is it just the Edge 1030 and is that the 1030, 1030 Plus or both?
Thanks for the info.Update—I just got the Garmin Ebike remote and it controls the bike when paired to a compatible Edge head unit. The instructions say that the remote can also be paired directly to an ebike but it doesn’t pair directly to an ebikemotion bike. I rode tonight with the remote paired to an Edge 820 and it worked great. It was nice not having to take my hand off the bars to change the assist level. For some reason though the remote doesn’t select assist level 0, just 1-3. Can select assist level zero on the head unit. But since I really need the remote more when increasing assist levels especially on rough gravel climbs it works well for my purposes. It’s also nice to be able to scroll up and down through all the assist levels unlike with the ebikemotion button that only scrolls up. The remote also connects and works with an Edge 1030/1030 Plus.
Thanks for the info.
When you say "don’t install the ebike specific Connect IQ" , you mean the ebike field app ?
So to summarize:
The remote is connected to the Garmin and the Garmin to the ebikemotion, right ?
Was it needed to do something else in the setting of the Garmin ?
Hi,Yes, I mean the ebike field app. I had it installed and for some reason it interfered with the Edge's native ebike control screen activated when it's connected to an ebike. The native screen allows the Edge to change assist levels and also shows battery level. After I uninstalled the ebike field app the Edge found the ebike in Sensors and the native ebike control screen appeared in my riding profiles.
Both the remote and the bike are connected to the Edge head unit. I didn't have to do anything else in the Garmin settings. Just connected to the bike and to the remote in Settings->Sensors. The only strange thing that happened was that the Edge didn't seem to recognize the up/down assist controls from the remote right away, but after a few minutes it did and then no more issues.