E-bike long term strategy

alloo

New Member
Court,

Love your advocacy for ebikes. Thank You.

I want your opinion of ebike market and the long term viability of commuting on an ebike. As you know a recent study from Deilotte stated that ebikes are going to be exploding as far as a hybrid vehicle. The industry is split between Direct to consumer and traditional bicycle shops. I am not sure which model DTC or TBS will win, they're room for both. I also see DTC as having more price points and TBS as becoming the high end of the market? What are your thoughts?

How long are ebikes designed to last? 1 year? 3 years? 5 years? longer? What company in the ebike industry has the best parts and service plan for supporting their ebikes? Yamaha? Trek? Giant? Specialized? How do ebike manufacturer support their ebikes in Europe? Asia? Africa? The ebike industry is in its infancy in the US, but has existed in Europe and Asia for a long time? Yamaha is the only ebike maker that has it's own drive system. Yamaha makes great instruments and powersports. I know that Bosch has a long term plan for it's drives too. What about other companies?

Where is the industry going? I'm curious because I commute on my ebike about 9 months out of the year. I try to ride 3-4 days a week, 25 miles a day round trip. I live in Denver and am 55 years old. On a regular bicycle, I can get maintenance and support for a long time. E bikes I am not sure that the companies in the US has a long term service plan for their products. With ebike models being released/improved every 1-3 years. Do I need to buy a ebike every two to three years? Or like a regular bicycle or motorcycle can I own my ebike for a long time? How long will parts for my ebike be available?

What do you see? How do you see the industry evolving? I currently own two ebikes in the last year of riding a 2017 Raleigh Retroglide IE and a 2020 Blix Aveny. I started riding this past year because I want to be healthier, help the environment, and lose 100 lbs. On my Retroglide, my battery slides lose over sidewalk seams and potholes. I bought the Blix because I want to try both a Mid Drive and a hub drive.

The DTC model looks very good for a self service model, but what about for older people who don't necessarily have the time/skill/patience to work on their own ebikes? What is available for us that are on a limited income? The TBS bikes on average have a higher price points? TBS also don't have the knowledge of ebikes because some of the shops are biased towards analog bicycles. Ebikes are new.

Thank You Court for your advocacy of ebikes. My questions are important for the consumer and direction of the ebike industry? How are E-motorcycle shops dealing with the issues listed above? How is the E-Car industry dealing with the above issues?

Aloha,
Al
 

Deacon Blues

Well-Known Member
DTC ebikes save you money, but if a problem comes up while the bike is still under warranty what do you do? A good example of this is my Pedego Ridgerider, which I bought from a local Pedego dealer. Within the warranty period the motor and torque sensor failed and was replaced for free by the dealer. How would I have gotten the warranty work done if I had bought an ebike from a 'direct to you' company?
 

AHicks

Well-Known Member
DTC ebikes save you money, but if a problem comes up while the bike is still under warranty what do you do? A good example of this is my Pedego Ridgerider, which I bought from a local Pedego dealer. Within the warranty period the motor and torque sensor failed and was replaced for free by the dealer. How would I have gotten the warranty work done if I had bought an ebike from a 'direct to you' company?
With RAD, you call them up, they diagnose the issue, they may ask you to send pics to confirm something, then they send you the required parts. OR, you call somebody like Velofix.
 

J.R.

Well-Known Member
Court,

Love your advocacy for ebikes. Thank You.

I want your opinion of ebike market and the long term viability of commuting on an ebike. As you know a recent study from Deilotte stated that ebikes are going to be exploding as far as a hybrid vehicle. The industry is split between Direct to consumer and traditional bicycle shops. I am not sure which model DTC or TBS will win, they're room for both. I also see DTC as having more price points and TBS as becoming the high end of the market? What are your thoughts?

How long are ebikes designed to last? 1 year? 3 years? 5 years? longer? What company in the ebike industry has the best parts and service plan for supporting their ebikes? Yamaha? Trek? Giant? Specialized? How do ebike manufacturer support their ebikes in Europe? Asia? Africa? The ebike industry is in its infancy in the US, but has existed in Europe and Asia for a long time? Yamaha is the only ebike maker that has it's own drive system. Yamaha makes great instruments and powersports. I know that Bosch has a long term plan for it's drives too. What about other companies?

Where is the industry going? I'm curious because I commute on my ebike about 9 months out of the year. I try to ride 3-4 days a week, 25 miles a day round trip. I live in Denver and am 55 years old. On a regular bicycle, I can get maintenance and support for a long time. E bikes I am not sure that the companies in the US has a long term service plan for their products. With ebike models being released/improved every 1-3 years. Do I need to buy a ebike every two to three years? Or like a regular bicycle or motorcycle can I own my ebike for a long time? How long will parts for my ebike be available?

What do you see? How do you see the industry evolving? I currently own two ebikes in the last year of riding a 2017 Raleigh Retroglide IE and a 2020 Blix Aveny. I started riding this past year because I want to be healthier, help the environment, and lose 100 lbs. On my Retroglide, my battery slides lose over sidewalk seams and potholes. I bought the Blix because I want to try both a Mid Drive and a hub drive.

The DTC model looks very good for a self service model, but what about for older people who don't necessarily have the time/skill/patience to work on their own ebikes? What is available for us that are on a limited income? The TBS bikes on average have a higher price points? TBS also don't have the knowledge of ebikes because some of the shops are biased towards analog bicycles. Ebikes are new.

Thank You Court for your advocacy of ebikes. My questions are important for the consumer and direction of the ebike industry? How are E-motorcycle shops dealing with the issues listed above? How is the E-Car industry dealing with the above issues?

Aloha,
Al
It won't answer all your questions, but Court has a book:

And this video:

 

EdC

Member
Court,

Love your advocacy for ebikes. Thank You.

I want your opinion of ebike market and the long term viability of commuting on an ebike. As you know a recent study from Deilotte stated that ebikes are going to be exploding as far as a hybrid vehicle. The industry is split between Direct to consumer and traditional bicycle shops. I am not sure which model DTC or TBS will win, they're room for both. I also see DTC as having more price points and TBS as becoming the high end of the market? What are your thoughts?

How long are ebikes designed to last? 1 year? 3 years? 5 years? longer? What company in the ebike industry has the best parts and service plan for supporting their ebikes? Yamaha? Trek? Giant? Specialized? How do ebike manufacturer support their ebikes in Europe? Asia? Africa? The ebike industry is in its infancy in the US, but has existed in Europe and Asia for a long time? Yamaha is the only ebike maker that has it's own drive system. Yamaha makes great instruments and powersports. I know that Bosch has a long term plan for it's drives too. What about other companies?

Where is the industry going? I'm curious because I commute on my ebike about 9 months out of the year. I try to ride 3-4 days a week, 25 miles a day round trip. I live in Denver and am 55 years old. On a regular bicycle, I can get maintenance and support for a long time. E bikes I am not sure that the companies in the US has a long term service plan for their products. With ebike models being released/improved every 1-3 years. Do I need to buy a ebike every two to three years? Or like a regular bicycle or motorcycle can I own my ebike for a long time? How long will parts for my ebike be available?

What do you see? How do you see the industry evolving? I currently own two ebikes in the last year of riding a 2017 Raleigh Retroglide IE and a 2020 Blix Aveny. I started riding this past year because I want to be healthier, help the environment, and lose 100 lbs. On my Retroglide, my battery slides lose over sidewalk seams and potholes. I bought the Blix because I want to try both a Mid Drive and a hub drive.

The DTC model looks very good for a self service model, but what about for older people who don't necessarily have the time/skill/patience to work on their own ebikes? What is available for us that are on a limited income? The TBS bikes on average have a higher price points? TBS also don't have the knowledge of ebikes because some of the shops are biased towards analog bicycles. Ebikes are new.

Thank You Court for your advocacy of ebikes. My questions are important for the consumer and direction of the ebike industry? How are E-motorcycle shops dealing with the issues listed above? How is the E-Car industry dealing with the above issues?

Aloha,
Al
I bought my first ebike 11 years ago. I’m still ride it every day and I’m still using the original batteries. Some electric bikes last a long time. Ed