E-bikes for new townhouse/personal - advice

Ryan J

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Thanks, again, Timpo. Those Stark bikes are priced pretty amazingly, but seems like lots of issues with quality and customer service. I don’t think I’ll go with them because of the ongoing maintenance thing and wanting the folks in the townhouses to have a really good first impression with these bikes.

Glad to see a company trying to bring in a lower cost option though.
 

ebikemom

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I would recommend a comfort style step through bike that will be easy for people with a range of physical abilities to ride. You might also consider getting a couple of sizes so that people of shorter stature can also have access to this community benefit.
 

Timpo

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Thanks, again, Timpo. Those Stark bikes are priced pretty amazingly, but seems like lots of issues with quality and customer service. I don’t think I’ll go with them because of the ongoing maintenance thing and wanting the folks in the townhouses to have a really good first impression with these bikes.

Glad to see a company trying to bring in a lower cost option though.
If you're willing to pay for quality, I'd highly suggest looking into Amego. Spark doesn't even have hydraulic brakes..
 

Ryan J

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If you're willing to pay for quality, I'd highly suggest looking into Amego. Spark doesn't even have hydraulic brakes..

I think I've now shortlisted (which is longer than my original list!) to these, which are similarly spriced:

Amego (possibly any of their four bikes) https://www.amegoev.com/electric-bike-brands/amego/
Surface 604 Colt (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)
Voltbike Enduro https://www.voltbike.com/enduro.html
Juice CCS (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)

I may even consider the Hilleater line if I get over there to test them out, but price point is a little too high: (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)

I've also just come across the Ariel M and W class of bikes, which seem very value-priced (and super popular as they're never in stock).

I'm going to dig in more to these (Other than the Hilleater, they've all been reviewed by Court), but anyone have any insight on riding these bikes?

@ebikemom, most of the above bikes are a bit of a crossover between a high bar and step through. I'm going to try and test a couple of options out over the next few months. My market is likely going to be 30 to 50-somethings but the small townhouses could attract some retiree-aged down sizers. I'm open to step-throughs, but there aren't a lot of them in Victoria, so not sure how they'd "fit in." Although, I'm not speaking to any real experience, just what I see. That's also a good point on sizing. I may wait until the owners are in and put it to them on what they would use during the first townhouse council meeting. The drawback to that is that many people like to see what they're getting before they buy, and having something sitting all shiny and new in the lock-up area (available for a quick spin) for prospective buyers could be really cool for marketing. :)
 
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Mr. Coffee

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A Demented Corner of the North Cascades
I think this is going to come down to a business decision as much as the relative technical merits of any given e-bike.

Basically you are purchasing a small fleet of bikes and you should at a minimum work with a manufacturer or dealer for some kind of discount and also for support keeping this small fleet running and running smoothly.

There are lots of great e-bikes that would work fine in this space and you should focus on who could give you the very best deal.
 

Ryan J

New Member
I think this is going to come down to a business decision as much as the relative technical merits of any given e-bike.

Basically you are purchasing a small fleet of bikes and you should at a minimum work with a manufacturer or dealer for some kind of discount and also for support keeping this small fleet running and running smoothly.

There are lots of great e-bikes that would work fine in this space and you should focus on who could give you the very best deal.

Completely agree. I'd also like e-bikes to regularly be part of my future developments, so I'll also be looking for more of a long-term relationship with a quality provider.
 

Timpo

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I think I've now shortlisted (which is longer than my original list!) to these, which are similarly spriced:

Amego (possibly any of their four bikes) https://www.amegoev.com/electric-bike-brands/amego/
Surface 604 Colt (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)
Voltbike Enduro https://www.voltbike.com/enduro.html
Juice CCS (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)

I may even consider the Hilleater line if I get over there to test them out, but price point is a little too high: (Link Removed - No Longer Exists)

I've also just come across the Ariel M and W class of bikes, which seem very value-priced (and super popular as they're never in stock).

I'm going to dig in more to these (Other than the Hilleater, they've all been reviewed by Court), but anyone have any insight on riding these bikes?

@ebikemom, most of the above bikes are a bit of a crossover between a high bar and step through. I'm going to try and test a couple of options out over the next few months. My market is likely going to be 30 to 50-somethings but the small townhouses could attract some retiree-aged down sizers. I'm open to step-throughs, but there aren't a lot of them in Victoria, so not sure how they'd "fit in." Although, I'm not speaking to any real experience, just what I see. That's also a good point on sizing. I may wait until the owners are in and put it to them on what they would use during the first townhouse council meeting. The drawback to that is that many people like to see what they're getting before they buy, and having something sitting all shiny and new in the lock-up area (available for a quick spin) for prospective buyers could be really cool for marketing. :)
Just curious, why are VoltBike Enduro?
That's a full suspension mountainbike.. not a commuter.
Did you mean to post this one? https://www.voltbike.com/voltbike-elegant.html

I would stick to Amego or Juiced.
Surface 604's is $1799 US, which is $2,425 Canadian. Not the best price if it only comes with 48V 10.4Ah battery.
Amego has 13.0Ah and Juiced has 12.8Ah, and they're both cheaper than Surface 604. As you probably know the battery is the most expensive component on the ebike.
Amego will give you reliability and overall quality. It's powered by Germany company called Das Kit and if you look at the components, you will get pretty good stuff.
Juiced's quality isn't as good (sorry but there's no secret about it), but it goes fast, that's why myself included, there are so many Juiced fans. It's a Stromer (expensive Swiss bike) without breaking the bank.
 
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Ryan J

New Member
Probably... :) I was looking at comparable price points with the others and clicking back and forth, but the Elegant is more of what I'd probably want. As Dewey pointed out, Voltbike is in Vancouver, just a short ferry ride away from me. I like that.

Ryan
 

Tuna

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Electric Bike Company model C or model S. They have front baskets (that can hold ~ 65 lbs) rear rack/basket that can hold ~110 lbs, They are built with quality components to withstand beach corrosion, they look cool - They now have a front attachment you can purchase to haul young children (like bikes in the Netherlands) - single gear chain (so the chain doesn't fall off as often as bikes with multiple gears) - Bikes are shipped almost fully assembled.

 
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Timpo

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Probably... :) I was looking at comparable price points with the others and clicking back and forth, but the Elegant is more of what I'd probably want. As Dewey pointed out, Voltbike is in Vancouver, just a short ferry ride away from me. I like that.

Ryan
The Elegant has mechanical disc brakes though.. I used to have them on my Juiced CrossCurrent Air and I hated it. Also the Elegant has a lot of cheap components.
That said.. it's the cheapest one, so it's always a trade off. If you're on budget I guess the Elegant can be an option. It comes with 48V 12.8Ah which is not bad for the price point. I believe you can upgrade it to hydraulic brakes just like I did.
Also Amego will give you $200 off if you're buying 2 bikes.
 
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Ryan J

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@Timpo I may still connect with them as they're close by... but appreciate the info on the cheaper parts, especially the brakes.

@Tuna Are you trying to make this more difficult for me? Too many options (although they do look really great)!!! :)
 

Ryan J

New Member
Hi folks,

Thanks again for the help with this. I did some more research and used your advice and ended up going with the "Spark" from Sparkbikes.ca (Thanks for finding the site, @Timpo!), with the upgraded 17AH battery and the disc brakes: https://sparkbikes.ca/products/spark?variant=27875688775774.

The value seemed pretty incredible for the parts compared to many of the other bikes I looked at. It came a couple of days ago and it seems to be a fairly well built bike with a good look, a pretty easy-to-understand display and great power, and it's a crap load of fun to ride. The throttle is a huge plus at this price point, to get instant power off the line, especially if I don't want to downshift as I'm coming to a stop. Really seems great for city riding.

Only issue I've had so far is the rack was bent a little in shipping, but it should be fairly easy to bend back once I remove it (three bolts). It's not too much of an issue anyway, as it doesn't effect performance.

I'm going to ride it for a few months, into the wetter and colder weather and see how it performs. If it checks out, I'll purchase another Spark and a Spark City (which will be better for shorter people) for my upcoming project.

Thanks, again, and let me know if you have any questions about the bike.

Ryan
 

Oberst

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What about the bikes made for bikeshare companies or, even have one of the bikeshare companies have some available at the townhouse where residents can use them from a specific app that could also be subsidized for a period of time? Might reduce the initial investment and would be a more proven technology for use by multiple riders?