First e-bike purchase assistance

Browneye

Well-Known Member
All great choices. Go ride them all and decide from there. You really can't miss with anything from the big-3 - Giant, Specialized, and Trek. Great dealer network for them all as well.
Choosing a competent and friendly dealer can be the difference of joy and frustration with the whole ownership experience.

Personally I really like the Yamaha drive system, but the others have just as many fans, and all seem to be reliable, easy to live with, and work exceedingly well. It is also my opinion that a modern mid-drive has advantages over hub drive systems, primarily by using the bikes gearing to its advantage. But the hub-drive bikes outsell the others by far, generally coming in at a lower price point.

Ride1UP seems to be a very strong new brand. There are several others offering that type of hub-drive bike, and all seem to be pretty good.

Visit as many dealers and try as many bikes as you can stand. It really helps with becoming aware of what you like and in choosing the best options for your personal use.
 

Browneye

Well-Known Member
The major problem now Chris is the poor availability of e-bikes in the U.S. market at the moment.

Increasingly more difficult. Giant is pretty much sold out for model year 2020, '21's due out within a month or two. Explore and Amiti may be hard to find. The usa site does list inventory location relative your own locale - a place to start if Giant is the first choice.

Specialized cost more, so they tend to sell out slower, same for Trek - their newest models were late to the game, and still have some inventory. At least for mountain bikes. I mentioned elsewhere that I had stopped at our local TREK dealer and there was a semi-truck trailer there that was being unloaded of it's entire load - all Electra bikes. They had bike cartons stacked everywhere, pallets of them.
 

Captain Slow

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If you're on a Roam now and test rode the Explore and like that then I'd recommend staying with Giant. So I'd say go Explore or maybe consider the Fastroad. Maybe that's beyond your budget though. For the riding you do the Fastroad's tires are more than wide enough and it doesn't sound like you need suspension.

It's a personal preference but I find suspension adds weight and cost, so unless you're mountain biking where it's needed I tend to not like suspension and have the money put elsewhere on the bike. I also like the ride feel of a rigid fork better if I'm not on MTB terrain. The Fast Road has 2.4" wide tires, that is all the suspension one generally needs unless riding off-road. Very few gravel bikes have suspension, though some models are starting to be introduced.
 

stevelion

New Member
I would not recommend Trek e-bikes because the Allant+ 7 basically belongs to the same tale as the Vado. What about Bulls?
If you could extend your budget to US$3500, the Bulls Lacuba are available in both high-step and step over versions. And these are available. Benefits:
  • Brose T motor (similar to Specialized 1.2), which is silent
  • 650 Wh battery and that's up to the standard of very expensive e-bikes, ensuring long range
  • Thick 2" tyres very good for roads and easy off-road
  • Air fork: Most of e-bikes come with inferior steel-spring fork
  • Fenders, lighting, rack.


If I were in your position and faced with the difficult market situation, I would certaintly look at the Bulls Lacuba e-bikes.
@FlatSix911, your opinion?
I like this bike. Crazy Lenny had the 2018 BULLS LACUBA EVO 45S on it's crazy deal for $2100. I spoke to them today and was talked out of it for two reasons. 1) no large and 2) no Brose repair center around me (assume Specialized only works on Specialized branded Brose).

Any comments on the servicing of these bikes? e.g. If I were to buy a brand like Bulls with no service center around me, but it uses the Bosch system, will any Bosch certified repair center make warranty repairs on this bike? If this is how it works, I can't even find a Brose U.S. service center locator and would have no idea where to go with it.
 
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hokienutzz

New Member
I like this bike. Crazy Lenny had the 2018 BULLS LACUBA EVO 45S on it's crazy deal for $2100. I spoke to them today and was talked out of it for two reasons. 1) no large and 2) no Brose repair center around me (assume Specialized only works on Specialized branded Brose).

Any comments on the servicing of these bikes? e.g. If I were to buy a brand like Bulls with no service center around me, but it uses the Bosch system, will any Bosch certified repair center make warranty repairs on this bike? If this is how it works, I can't even find a Brose U.S. service center locator and would have no idea where to go with it.

Today's Crazy deal is for the Bosch performance CX powered Haibike Trekking 7.0 - similar to the Bulls but there are more Bosch service LBS's probably. Seems like a good deal.
 

Grison

New Member
We tried to get a pair of Haibike Trekking 7.0's about two weeks ago, but the ones we found online turned out to be unavailable. We opted for the Giant Explore E+ 4 and Liv Amiti E+ 4 instead, and with about 10 days of periodic riding under our belts now, so far we are very happy. I thought I might miss having a throttle, but I actually don't care at all in practice. The auto-assist is amazing for varied terrain or stop-and-go downtown, although we usually opt for the fixed assist mode for sustained riding on the flats.
 

stevelion

New Member
We tried to get a pair of Haibike Trekking 7.0's about two weeks ago, but the ones we found online turned out to be unavailable. We opted for the Giant Explore E+ 4 and Liv Amiti E+ 4 instead, and with about 10 days of periodic riding under our belts now, so far we are very happy. I thought I might miss having a throttle, but I actually don't care at all in practice. The auto-assist is amazing for varied terrain or stop-and-go downtown, although we usually opt for the fixed assist mode for sustained riding on the flats.
Thanks for the feedback on the Giant and Liv since those bikes are the same two bikes my wife and I rode for a quick test drive and enjoyed. My wife is now balking at the price and so I'm kind of on hold right now. We bought new bikes 3 years ago and rarely use those and it's not clear that eBikes will really make the difference.

In any case, I've had time to do a lot of research and am convinced that, if we buy something, I'm going to stick with a brands that can be easily serviced by my LBS. So Trek and Specialized are very convenient, Cannondale is not bad, and Giant is the farthest, but doable at 45 minutes away. Giant/Liv seems to offer the best bang for the buck, but really like the Trek Dual Sport and Cannondale Tesoro Neo X 2, but I'm not even sure the latter is available in the U.S.

Anyway, if she's balking at the Giant/Liv prices, the Trek and Cannondale are definitely not better!
 

BlackHand

Active Member
Crazy Lenny's has the Haibike SDURO Trekking 7.0 listed for $2699 shipped. HERE
Knowing what those were on sale for recently, I bet you could get a hi step and mid step shipped for <$5000.

Pretty similar to the Explore E+ you're considering but better equipped and with the Bosch CX instead of Yamaha.
You gain:
-Nice fenders, decent lights
-500Wh battery
-2.5" Super Moto-X tires
-rear rack
 

BlackHand

Active Member
Crazy Lenny's has the Haibike SDURO Trekking 7.0 listed for $2699 shipped. HERE
Knowing what those were on sale for recently, I bet you could get a hi step and mid step shipped for <$5000.

Pretty similar to the Explore E+ you're considering but better equipped and with the Bosch CX instead of Yamaha.
You gain:
-Nice fenders, decent lights
-500Wh battery
-2.5" Super Moto-X tires
-rear rack
Huh, I guess I didn't refresh the posts all day, I see someone already pointed you towards Crazy Lenny's.
 

Browneye

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the feedback on the Giant and Liv since those bikes are the same two bikes my wife and I rode for a quick test drive and enjoyed. My wife is now balking at the price and so I'm kind of on hold right now. We bought new bikes 3 years ago and rarely use those and it's not clear that eBikes will really make the difference.

In any case, I've had time to do a lot of research and am convinced that, if we buy something, I'm going to stick with a brands that can be easily serviced by my LBS. So Trek and Specialized are very convenient, Cannondale is not bad, and Giant is the farthest, but doable at 45 minutes away. Giant/Liv seems to offer the best bang for the buck, but really like the Trek Dual Sport and Cannondale Tesoro Neo X 2, but I'm not even sure the latter is available in the U.S.

Anyway, if she's balking at the Giant/Liv prices, the Trek and Cannondale are definitely not better!


We bought new Specialized pedal bikes 3 years ago as well. They didn't get much time on them.
Discovered the Ebike thing, started off with a hub-drive conversion, then a nother new one, and they definitely do make the difference. Good cardio if you feel like it, full drive assist if you don't.
Eight grand later and the rest is history, as the saying goes.

Ebikes lets you go 50% faster, ride twice as far for the same effort, which is three times as much fun so you go ten times as much.
How's them stats?? 😁
 

stevelion

New Member
We bought new Specialized pedal bikes 3 years ago as well. They didn't get much time on them.
Discovered the Ebike thing, started off with a hub-drive conversion, then a nother new one, and they definitely do make the difference. Good cardio if you feel like it, full drive assist if you don't.
Eight grand later and the rest is history, as the saying goes.

Ebikes lets you go 50% faster, ride twice as far for the same effort, which is three times as much fun so you go ten times as much.
How's them stats?? 😁
If we get more exercise, it's worth it. I'll share those stats with my wife. The math doesn't lie and 3X fun is very compelling!
 
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