Frame breakage Vado turbo

Orphanautos

New Member
Working on a Vado turbo for a friend. The clunking noise in the driveline turned out to be a break in the frame at the motor mount. LBS says they have seen two others with the same break. As this is a second hand bike there is no warranty in effect. No significant incident occurred that would have likely caused this ie a fall or curb shot pothole etc. So it looks like we are on our own to repair the frame. Anyone else out there repaired this? I believe we have designed a strap to reinforce the area where the break occurred after we weld the frame. Common sense says to remove all electronics prior to welding. What problems are we likely to encounter after reassembly? Attached is a photo of the frame break. Looks kinda deficient in strength to me to start with. 43203
 

J.R.

Well-Known Member
Working on a Vado turbo for a friend. The clunking noise in the driveline turned out to be a break in the frame at the motor mount. LBS says they have seen two others with the same break. As this is a second hand bike there is no warranty in effect. No significant incident occurred that would have likely caused this ie a fall or curb shot pothole etc. So it looks like we are on our own to repair the frame. Anyone else out there repaired this? I believe we have designed a strap to reinforce the area where the break occurred after we weld the frame. Common sense says to remove all electronics prior to welding. What problems are we likely to encounter after reassembly? Attached is a photo of the frame break. Looks kinda deficient in strength to me to start with.View attachment 43203
There have been a few reports here and elsewhere of cracked frames on newer Specialized bikes. Seems clear a manufacturer's defect and I would press Specialized on the issue, whether second hand or not. Frames come with a lifetime warranty, probably for the original owner, but cracked frames are a safety issue. Someone could get hurt.

Keep an eye out for a recall.


Also consider contacting CPSC to file a report.

If you TIG weld, it could be repaired. Or a really good welding shop could do it. I would think if you repair it you might lose the right to a claim against the company. I am not an authority on this though. I would exhaust all possibilities with Specialized first. Good luck!
 

Orphanautos

New Member
There have been a few reports here and elsewhere of cracked frames on newer Specialized bikes. Seems clear a manufacturer's defect and I would press Specialized on the issue, whether second hand or not. Frames come with a lifetime warranty, probably for the original owner, but cracked frames are a safety issue. Someone could get hurt.

Keep an eye out for a recall.


Also consider contacting CPSC to file a report.

If you TIG weld, it could be repaired. Or a really good welding shop could do it. I would think if you repair it you might lose the right to a claim against the company. I am not an authority on this though. I would exhaust all possibilities with Specialized first. Good luck!
Thankyou for your advice. Pressing specialized seems to be the best initial course of action. My friends need of this bike for transportation is great. I’m trying to convince him to ride a “normal” bike for a while while we sort this out. I have a very qualified welder involved with the project. I am a compitent mechanic who can’t spell but not a qualified for the electronics...yet.
 
My Vado 4.0 frame broke at the exact same spot. Entire bike replaced under warranty. Clearly yet another weak spot that Specialized are keen to keep swept under the carpet....
 

123andy

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Region
USA
I have a Vado 6 -- I started to notice a looseness in the crankshaft/motor - removed the guard and saw that the frame had snapped. I'm starting the warranty process with my dealer now. For the record, I didn't do any off-roading or anything 'hard' on this bike -- just an essential commuter on paved roads.

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Art Deco

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Region
USA
City
Selinsgrove
There have been a few reports here and elsewhere of cracked frames on newer Specialized bikes. Seems clear a manufacturer's defect and I would press Specialized on the issue, whether second hand or not. Frames come with a lifetime warranty, probably for the original owner, but cracked frames are a safety issue. Someone could get hurt.

Keep an eye out for a recall.


Also consider contacting CPSC to file a report.

If you TIG weld, it could be repaired. Or a really good welding shop could do it. I would think if you repair it you might lose the right to a claim against the company. I am not an authority on this though. I would exhaust all possibilities with Specialized first. Good luck!
My Specialized manual says that the frame is under warranty for the life of the original buyer and/or for two years for a second hand bike. I remember it because it seemed so weird.
 

123andy

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Region
USA
What location is that ? Too much stress from maybe too high tq of the bolt ?
This is located right under the motor -- here is a second pic from a little further away:
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I think this is the only attachment between the motor and the frame (although I haven't touched the bolt -- want to leave that to the dealer for fear of having any warranty issues.).

It does seem like a pretty small amount of aluminum when you consider the torque of the motor plus a strong push on a pedal..
 

ChrisS

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Region
New Zealand
Hi, currently have the same problem with my Vado 4, being the 2nd owner I am currently having a fight with the Specialised dealership in NZ. Want me to produce the Original receipt of purchase from the 1st owner. Cant see what difference that makes to a problem that is clearly a design weakness. Even then they haven't promised to replace the frame F.O.C.
Has anyone designed a bracket to strengthen this?
 

Dallant

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I have a Vado 6 -- I started to notice a looseness in the crankshaft/motor - removed the guard and saw that the frame had snapped. I'm starting the warranty process with my dealer now. For the record, I didn't do any off-roading or anything 'hard' on this bike -- just an essential commuter on paved roads.

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Looks like some cheesy pot metal!🙄
 

123andy

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Region
USA
Update on my bike - the dealer got a hold of Specialized and I think I'll get a new 2022 Vado - the downside is none are available for another 3 months, so I wait. I'm still not commuting every day due to COVID so I can make do without my fancy e-bike for a while.

@ChrisS - The Specialized warranty clearly differentiates between the original buyer and secondary owners, so may are likely out of luck on that front. I guess they figure why take on a liability when it won't help the sale of the bike? Not defending the policy but I can understand it.