I am hopefully going to get a hold of an Epik Se next week. I guess the rack on them can be considered higher than a normal folder. I am a commuter and I will regularly have a MacBook, iPad, running shoes, gym clothes, a shake bottle, and a towel with me. That is a bit of a list but it doesn't demand a ton of space. The laptop is the most non-negotiable piece when it comes to space. Anyone have any pictures of pannier success with their folders? The look is less important than heel strikes! Thanks!