Hello need some help picking up my first ebike.

Burak

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Hello I am Burak, I have been saving for an ebike for a while now and would like to get some ideas on about which ebike to go with. I like the looks of voltbikes and had my eye on outback and enduro. I also found out about luna cycle bikes but they are not as cheap as volt bikes and I was thinking of buying volt bike or rad, first then later on upgrade to a luna cycle? I have had an emmo proton gts in the past but due to moving it up and down the elevator and to charge it was not working so I had to sell it. I am looking to commute to school and back home, also doing ubereats with my new bike so, I am open to any ideas. My price range varies I can wait a bit longer and save up more if there's a good ebike out there waiting for me :). Thanks, let me know what you would like to teach me about ebikes as I am still learning the PROS and CONS about ebikes.

So to sum it up, should i get a voltbike or rad as entry into ebikes family or save up more and wait for a luna cycle? Or if there are other options to go with I am all ears!
 
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antboy

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If you're saving money, I'd go with the cheaper Outback with the rear hub motor. Voltbikes has a decent reputation.

That being said, if you're aiming more for commuting/food delivery in an urban/suburban area, and not off-roading, I'd personally skip the full suspension of the Outback and 3" wide tires and look at their Bravo with 2.1" wide tires.

Otherwise, it's the same bike, and probably better suited for such purposes. The thinner tires will also probably let you get away with riding on a slightly lower pedal assist, which is always good for battery life.

I only mention this because I know a couple of pizza delivery guys at the shop next to me, and we've chatted about e-bikes. For the record, they both use this...


If you're in the US, note that all the Amego prices are in Canadian dollars, but they ship to the US, as they have 2 warehouses in the states, so with the exchange rate, it might be worth looking at.

It's not as sporty looking as the Volt bikes, but the Amego is by far the most popular food delivery e-bike here in Toronto. One of the delivery guys has had the same bike for 3 winters now, and no problems other than regular bike maintenance and buying an extra couple of batteries.

I think it helps that Amego has a physical store, and sells everything from their own brand up to high end mid-drive bikes.
 

Burak

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Thanks for the reply. I am in Toronto and checked out the Amego bikes. They are good looking and I did not know financing was possible so I might go with a higher end bike if I get approved maybe a stromer st1x looks very cool. Let me know what you think about stromers, I head they are good but then again I am new to all this e-biking stuff.
 

antboy

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I haven't ridden a Stromer, so can't speak to them. I'd personally want a throttle on a rear hub motor, but that's just my opinion. :)

I don't think Amego is open to the public due to "the covids", but once they do, you can probably take a few different brands out for test rides, to see what suits you best. If you're curious about more expensive mid-drives, you can also walk over to the Trek and Giant stores, both of which are just a couple of blocks west.
 

Burak

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I have made my decision and will be buying from NCM. I still am in the middle of the river though about which side to go to about fat tires aspen model or normal ones moscow model.
 

antboy

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I have made my decision and will be buying from NCM. I still am in the middle of the river though about which side to go to about fat tires aspen model or normal ones moscow model.
I assume you'll be getting it from Amego? If so, I think they had a special promotion for food delivery people, but I'm not sure if that's still around.

While fat tires are great in the snow, the 2.25" tires on the Moscow are good as well, and a little easier on the pedaling in the nicer weather. :)

I was actually considering the Moscow Plus as a second e-bike, but decided that I want a mid-drive better suited for trekking. I'm still keeping my rear-hub bike for "in-city" stuff like commuting and errand running.
 

Burak

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I assume you'll be getting it from Amego? If so, I think they had a special promotion for food delivery people, but I'm not sure if that's still around.

While fat tires are great in the snow, the 2.25" tires on the Moscow are good as well, and a little easier on the pedaling in the nicer weather. :)

I was actually considering the Moscow Plus as a second e-bike, but decided that I want a mid-drive better suited for trekking. I'm still keeping my rear-hub bike for "in-city" stuff like commuting and errand running.
I am keep going in between now with Radrover 5 or Aspen plus lol. I want a fat tire for some unknown reason, it just looks cooler and more comfortable i think. What do you think? Radrover 5 or NCM Aspen plus? Which one is the better choice here mate?
 

harryS

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I have a fat tire bike. Big one and a little one. Not very useful in a big city on pavement. The knobby tires do howl.

Cool looks of a fat tire vs better battery mileage and a quiet ride on a regular tire. You'll be buying smooth tires to run on pavement, and that's $140 extra.

And if you run out of battery with a bag of food to be delivered, fat tires aren't so cool.
 

bob armani

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If you are doing more urban riding and food deliveries, you may be better off sticking with a rear hub motor along with slicker tires than knobbies for the same reasons indicated in this thread. The 'Schwalbe Marathon Plus' tires seem to be the front runner in best performance and great puncture protection. If you can, try to also test ride a rear hub model vs a mid-drive back to back to see what suits you best. Happy shopping and ride safe! :)
 

Burak

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Hmm so don't go for fat tire bikes, okay :D. Well NCM is the choice then moscow plus that is. I mean I wanted a fat tire bike because I started seeing it everywhere, and its the trend now a days but don't always follow the flock it seems. Thanks a lot for the knowledge guys, I am still researching like crazy and it just gets more and more awesome haha.
 

bob armani

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Hmm so don't go for fat tire bikes, okay :D. Well NCM is the choice then moscow plus that is. I mean I wanted a fat tire bike because I started seeing it everywhere, and its the trend now a days but don't always follow the flock it seems. Thanks a lot for the knowledge guys, I am still researching like crazy and it just gets more and more awesome haha.
Perhaps down the road when you start out with the bike that suits your style the best, you can get an additional fat tire E-bike that you could use for weekend/offroad riding. Sometimes it can be a tall order to find a dual purpose all in one bike for all your needs. Good Luck!
 

tomdav

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I would test ride a few bikes before you buy, assuming it's still possible. The investment is relatively small for bikes you're considering, but it's still a chunk of money.

BTW, what's the fascination with NCM?
 

Burak

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I would test ride a few bikes before you buy, assuming it's still possible. The investment is relatively small for bikes you're considering, but it's still a chunk of money.

BTW, what's the fascination with NCM?
I like how sporty the bikes look. Volt bikes seems good enough too but Amego is in Toronto so I can just go and pick it up. As for test riding, I don't think its possible due to covid. Apart from NCM, if there are other brands that makes good looking bikes I am open to new ideas.
 

tomdav

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NCM Plus doesn't look too bad for $2K CAD, but no torque sensing and 13ah battery:


For $2K CAD this gets you torque sensing and 17ah battery.

 

Burak

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NCM Plus doesn't look too bad for $2K CAD, but no torque sensing and 13ah battery:


For $2K CAD this gets you torque sensing and 17ah battery.

Oh this looks nice too, thanks for the info. But its all sold out sadly, what do you think about their RX it says pre-order and ships June, I can wait till then and save up little bit more as well.

Edit: nevermind it says mid drive for the RX, I think Rize X would do in this case but thats fat tire, I am searching into mid drive vs hub motor right now and will make up my mind then.
 
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tomdav

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Rize has good prices. Mixed reviews but not enough user feedback to draw any conclusions:


NCM has an even smaller sample size:


There may be some value to purchasing from LBS like Amego if you run into any issues.

As far as the RX, that has the Bafang Ultra mid drive. Depends on what you're looking for. You can pre-order the upgraded Rize 2020 as well (says ships in May).
 
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antboy

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Rize has good prices. Mixed reviews but not enough user feedback to draw any conclusions:


NCM has an even smaller sample size:


There may be some value to purchasing from LBS like Amego if you run into any issues.

As far as the RX, that has the Bafang Ultra mid drive. Depends on what you're looking for. You can pre-order the upgraded Rize 2020 as well (says ships in May).
Rize is formerly Spark (they rebranded as Rize due to there being other "Spark" e-bike brands globally).


I personally had no problem with customer service. We bought two Spark Minis, and one was clearly dropped during shipping. They offered to pay for the repairs.

Others have had a mixed bag of results with them, though.
 

byunbee

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Crazy Lenny has good deals and a wide selection. But as most folks on the forum recommends, ride a few (similar bikes - motor, forks, frame type, etc.) before making a purchase. You wouldn't buy a car without test driving it first right?


There's also a marketplace for bikes you can get good deals on time to time.