HELP!! Derestricting the 2019/20 Yamaha Crosscore.

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Buy the Civante . 28 mph and zero hassle with the 'speed box's' that claim to allow higher speeds. You'll also get higher quality components through out, including hydraulic brakes. A number of customers who tried the Specialized models, most higher priced, and also Trek, said Yamaha was stronger and faster and more intuitive. They all stated the Yamaha response was much more natural,as though the ebike was a bike that did not in any way inhibit their overall bike experience.
 

bones774

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Buy the Civante . 28 mph and zero hassle with the 'speed box's' that claim to allow higher speeds. You'll also get higher quality components through out, including hydraulic brakes. A number of customers who tried the Specialized models, most higher priced, and also Trek, said Yamaha was stronger and faster and more intuitive. They all stated the Yamaha response was much more natural,as though the ebike was a bike that did not in any way inhibit their overall bike experience.
just came across this old thread. I have a cross core which is great for me but have to ask, is the Civante SE motor the same as my CC? and if so why hasn't anybody been able to figure out how to unlock it at least up to Civante 28mph speed? that would be super!
 

WattsUpDude

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just came across this old thread. I have a cross core which is great for me but have to ask, is the Civante SE motor the same as my CC? and if so why hasn't anybody been able to figure out how to unlock it at least up to Civante 28mph speed? that would be super!

User @nonsensicalnarwhal indicates that SpeedBox 2.0 for Yamaha branded bikes works on the Cross Core according to this thread.
 

bones774

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I'm new to all this speedbox stuff and the thread gets to be a little confusing, mentioning different motors, different units and if speedo does/doesn't work. I emailed nonsensical direct and asked about long term results. we'll see if he's still online. thanks all the same, appreciate all your help

PS- just went to Speedbox website and it states not compatible with Cross Core.
 

WattsUpDude

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I'm new to all this speedbox stuff and the thread gets to be a little confusing, mentioning different motors, different units and if speedo does/doesn't work. I emailed nonsensical direct and asked about long term results. we'll see if he's still online. thanks all the same, appreciate all your help

PS- just went to Speedbox website and it states not compatible with Cross Core.

Some of the tuners are very specific to the combination of display + motor. Even then, there’s firmware differences between models so that adds another complication. It took a year for SpeedBox to offer an Urban Rush specific tuner after I reported that SpeedBox 2.0 didn’t work for my application.
 

LarryLegless

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I do have the Yamaha CIvante and just love it, now have 6700 miles on it. Upgraded drivetrain from Shimano Tiagra to Shimano 105, changed the chain ring from 50 to 52. I have a want to derestrict the 28 mph limit in a big time. I only have 1 leg to pedal with, my right leg is amputated above the knee and is limited to pedal power afforded. I am only riding the group A rides wher speeds average pace is 20 mph. What gets frustrating is when the group hits a speed zone and everyone but me is going up to 31 mph on the sprint zone. I can if I push it really hard can get going to 29 mph but peter out in a short time. If I am lucky the group hits a light and I can catch up.
I have tried 2 options both the Speedbox for Yamaha and forgot the other one, Valspeed or such are unable to destrict. They both throw error codes and shut down power assist. I have had contac t with Speedbox developer and they agree their product is unable to destrict the 28 mph Yamaha PW-SE motor. I have started to look at other brands that offer Class 3 28 mph bikes that have a tuning option to destrict. Any Borsch motor bike is out of the question, their motor programming prevents any way to derestict it. I was even considering a Yamaha bike that is class 1 20 mph with uses the same PW0SE motor that the Speedbox for Yamaha is advertized to be able to destrict.
Other bikes I am looking at are the Specialized or Giant, but need a version that has a 250w motor and 500w battery or offers an extended battery option. I bought a second battery for my Civante and can ride longer group A ride distances and still be able to run in Std or High mode to keep up in the pace line, that is till they are exceeding 28 mph. Sorry for the long winded reply, just frustrated with how they restrict an eboke but a regular boke can easily exceed 28 mph with a strong rider.