This is a silly thread and comparison. It's about where and how you ride. But after testing the Bosch and Yamaha drives, well keep them. No throttle and simply anemic after riding a Bafang mid-drive. Nearly every version is quicker than Bosch and it's competition. Repairable for DIY. In the end, I've transitioned to MAC hubs 42T X 20T single speed. I could dial it up to do wheelies, instead, it's just quick to get up to speed. Cruise control is sweet! It can also be a battery miser.Yes a direct drive may be great once it reaches speed but on a commute there are a lot of starts and stops sometimes. Do you think you could get 25 miles going 20 to 22 on flat surfaces using a 36v 500 watt battery? Like I use on my Bosch in full assist?