With a proper pedal assistance it shouldn't take much effort at all to get the bike going. We hear many with this same argument and then they test a bike with a Bosch or similar system and they get it. Maybe I'm a bit biased though since I don't have any bike with throttles in the shop. Several leading shops seem to be moving in a similar direction though. With proper pedal assist you don't need a throttle.Still looking for a stealthy purpose built mid-drive with IGH and throttle that doesn't look like and Ebike. Bulls comes closest with the Evo with Gates belt but no throttle.Lots of us in our 60s need that boost to start a heavy bike while at a stop light in heavy traffic and the IGH to shift down if in the wrong gear. There's a big market here for geezers that love biking and want something with more personality than a cruiser style ebike. Looks like FLX bikes are getting close with the Bafang Max but no IGH yet.
Have you ridden a bike with a Bosch motor? I ask because the pedal assist is quite a bit more refined and predictable. I wonder if you would feel the same on a bike with that system. I know with the Easy Motion bikes you often have to feather the brake to stop the bike from taking off on you. Easy Motion bikes require a brake cut off switch, whereas the Bosch system does not. The motors sensors are advanced enough that it's not necessary. I don't mean to criticize. I'm really interested in understanding this perspective since it comes up often.I don't use the throttle much on my Emotion Evo City. If I were 20 years younger, I wouldn't even consider a throttle (or ebike) since I was doing century rides on my road bike. 10 years ago, I had to give up my road and mountain bikes, but got a new lease on riding with a recumbent. I still use the recumbent but realize its time for the next bike phase, ebiking. I still have a competitive spirit and like those long rides, but sometimes get to the point where I feel I've earned the right to use the throttle and rest my weary legs for those last few miles home. I use a throttle only as a safety measure for those rare instances outlined in this thread but can see where some riders feel it is unnecessary just as some feel ebikes are the devil. I hope to be posting many years from now about my experiences on a throttled tricycle!
If your fitness level dictates a higher assist level than the PAS systems offer, or if you need to have more control over how hard you peddle at any given time or condition, why take these choices away from the rider? Remember, you can't receive the benefits of any level of exercise of you don't want to get on the bike.in our experience most don't miss having a throttle when they get a quality pedal assist bike. It's simplistic to operate as you don't need to think about it, you just ride like you normally would and if you're always pedaling you're always getting some exercise, retaining the principals of a bicycle.
From my experience, it is not necessarily the case. I ride three 28 mph ebikes (all with throttles), one hub drive and 2 mid drives. The hub motor is always geared in top gear so the acceleration from a dead stop is always mild (maybe moderate when you full throttle it). It could be a different story if you have a 20 mph hub drive since it is geared lower (and also better climber).I can see where a throttle could be an advantage to jump off the line from a stop at an intersection, but on a mid-drive that launch is going to depend on what gear you are in - so it still might not be as quick as you wanted, if you have forgotten to downshift before you came to the stop and stayed in high gear.
From my experience, it is not necessarily the case. I ride three 28 mph ebikes (all with throttles), one hub drive and 2 mid drives. The hub motor is always geared in top gear so the acceleration from a dead stop is always mild (maybe moderate when you full throttle it). It could be a different story if you have a 20 mph hub drive since it is geared lower (and also better climber).
That is also similar in a mid drive if you forgot to downshift, it feels like a 28 mph hub drive on acceleration from a dead stop. However if you downshifted in a mid drive then the pick up from a stop is really strong. Mind you, you only need to downshift 1 or 2 gears in a mid drive before coming into a full stop....
So, from reading this thread it seems like there are relatively few middrives with throttles. I was thinking about the izip protour, but the range is giving me pause. Someone mentioned that bosch doesn't like throttles at all. What about something like the Giant Quick-E+ with SyncDrive by Yamaha? Would the controller on one of these allow an aftermarket thumb throttle to be added?
Sometimes it's the only way home....VBG Especially after a long or grueling ride. And at my age, that can happen every day.There are plenty of reasons of good reasons to have a throttle on an ebike. a couple of examples: I use my BBSHD ebike on single track trails and generally run it on zero PAS to get the full workout of a 50lb ebike. I use the throttle for a quick few seconds of boost when doing intense trail riding or to jump start up an incline. Sometimes you feel tired and just want to coast back after a good hard ride. I usually reward myself with mostly throttle on my return trip out of the hills. I usually use a bit of throttle when starting out from a dead stop. Throttles + peddling are a good way to get through traffic intersections. They can be handy to have if you need to avoid a potential dangerous situation, a throttle can come in handy especially if you have the power behind it.