NCM Moscow Trail Ride

dunksalot

Active Member
I don't think the NCM Moscow is great for mountain biking without some changes. I ended up making several changes to use it as a mountain bike and it works well. First off, the front fork is really not great, it is basically a low-end spring shock. I ended up replacing it with a RockShox ReconRLR which is one of the few that would fit. I also ended up putting on some heavy-duty mountain biking tires, Maxxis Assegai Wide trim 3C/TR - 27.5. Many would say the NCM rims are not not wide enough for these tires but I was able to get them on and they work great. Also since I was getting flats fairly often (not the bikes fault) I added Mr. Tuffy Ultra Tire Liners and Slime self-healing tire tubes. I have had this configuration for a year and done a lot of crazy mountain biking over rocky surfaces and not had a flat. I don't carry a pump anymore and haven't had long walks out of trials due to flats. The bike has held together really well other than the battery holder becoming lose. NCM sent me a new screw but I use heavy duty electrical tape to hold the battery in place.

Nice! The upgrades look great. I need to start looking up how to do my own tune-ups this thing is starting to make noises...and I popped a tire which I heard happens frequently with these bikes.

I am in San Diego as well - hope to run into you some time! I am mostly hitting the trails off the 56 fwy.

The width says 2.5" according to the above link. 2.25" is the standard which I assume you know.
 

WaveRider21

New Member
Nice! The upgrades look great. I need to start looking up how to do my own tune-ups this thing is starting to make noises...and I popped a tire which I heard happens frequently with these bikes.

I am in San Diego as well - hope to run into you some time! I am mostly hitting the trails off the 56 fwy.

The width says 2.5" according to the above link. 2.25" is the standard which I assume you know.

Hi Dunksalot, I ride off of the 56 too. Yes width is 2.5 but it hasn't been an issue. I ride over by Black Mountain sometimes which has all kinds of jagged rocks, but the Assagai/Mr. Tuffy combination has prevented any flats. I just hit something riding and broke my derailleur so I am in the process of getting it fixed.
 

WaveRider21

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how wide are those tires?
2.5"

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dunksalot

Active Member
Hi Dunksalot, I ride off of the 56 too. Yes width is 2.5 but it hasn't been an issue. I ride over by Black Mountain sometimes which has all kinds of jagged rocks, but the Assagai/Mr. Tuffy combination has prevented any flats. I just hit something riding and broke my derailleur so I am in the process of getting it fixed.
Nice! I had some foot problems and surgery - been off the bike a few months and just finally getting back. My son has taken over my NCM Moscow rendering me back to my analog Diamondback. Being in a cast had me doing lots of research and I'm leaning towards the new Watt Wagons Hydra...but I have to time that request just right with wifey at the price.
 

Chinto

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Region
Canada
I don't think the NCM Moscow is great for mountain biking without some changes. I ended up making several changes to use it as a mountain bike and it works well. First off, the front fork is really not great, it is basically a low-end spring shock. I ended up replacing it with a RockShox ReconRLR which is one of the few that would fit. I also ended up putting on some heavy-duty mountain biking tires, Maxxis Assegai Wide trim 3C/TR - 27.5. Many would say the NCM rims are not not wide enough for these tires but I was able to get them on and they work great. Also since I was getting flats fairly often (not the bikes fault) I added Mr. Tuffy Ultra Tire Liners and Slime self-healing tire tubes. I have had this configuration for a year and done a lot of crazy mountain biking over rocky surfaces and not had a flat. I don't carry a pump anymore and haven't had long walks out of trials due to flats. The bike has held together really well other than the battery holder becoming lose. NCM sent me a new screw but I use heavy duty electrical tape to hold the battery in place.
Why did you say one of the few forks that would fit? I haven’t pulled the forks off mine yet. But the headstock looks like you could fit anything?
 

WaveRider21

New Member
I had my local bike shop buy it, see image. You may be able to get it for a lower price online. I bought a 27.5" as recommended by the store. Most bikes currently have tapered head pipes on the forks but the NCM is straight (old school) so that is why there aren't many choices. If you do mountain biking I would highly recommend the switchover. Instead of paying $3K for an electric mountain bike I bought the NCM and added forks, tires and also a Thudbuster seat post. The Thudbuster IMHO gets you half way to rear suspension. Good luck.

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Chinto

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Canada
For future reference and for anyone reading this that is considering an upgrade you can run tapered forks with an adapter.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
Are you sure, the taper looks wider than the straight pipe so how would it fit? Thanks!
I don't have an NCM Moscow but that frame akmost looks like it was designed for tapered tube.

Maybe they are using tapered tube frame with a straight tube adapter.
If not, you can get an adapter.

They have adapters for both, straight to tapered, and tapered to straight.

There are adapters available on AliExpress.
 

WaveRider21

New Member
I don't think so on the NCM. The headset of the frame would need to have an adapter you can take out to enable a larger tube which mine didn't. The space is too narrow for the tapered. If you have a frame that accommodates a taper you can put an adapter for a straight tube because it is smaller. The bike shop confirmed this. Also, there are posts on MTBR about this subject.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
I don't think so on the NCM. The headset of the frame would need to have an adapter you can take out to enable a larger tube which mine didn't. The space is too narrow for the tapered. If you have a frame that accommodates a taper you can put an adapter for a straight tube because it is smaller. The bike shop confirmed this. Also, there are posts on MTBR about this subject.
ok so the NCM's headset is designed for straight tube?

then I guess you can get an adapter like this?
 

WaveRider21

New Member
Yah, I get what you are saying, that is what is really weird about it. It looks like that from the outside it is tapered but is straight on the inside.
 
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Decrepidude

Member
Region
Canada
Anybody put Textro hydraulic brakes on a Moscow ? Change from Textro mechanical ?
One of the reasons I spent the extra to get the Moscow Plus... tektro hydraulic 180mm front and rear, cut off to both brakes, slightly better forks, bigger battery... it was worth the extra $240 it cost at the time.
An upgrade should be easy and available, if not cheap. There's a kit that uses your mechanical cable to actuate hydraulic bolt-ons which is cheaper and seems like a good compromise.
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
One of the reasons I spent the extra to get the Moscow Plus... tektro hydraulic 180mm front and rear, cut off to both brakes, slightly better forks, bigger battery... it was worth the extra $240 it cost at the time.
An upgrade should be easy and available, if not cheap. There's a kit that uses your mechanical cable to actuate hydraulic bolt-ons which is cheaper and seems like a good compromise.
You might have to get a different inhibitor connector but here are full hydraulic brakes, not mechanical brake with hydraulic caliper.
 

Decrepidude

Member
Region
Canada
I had my local bike shop buy it, see image. You may be able to get it for a lower price online. I bought a 27.5" as recommended by the store. Most bikes currently have tapered head pipes on the forks but the NCM is straight (old school) so that is why there aren't many choices. If you do mountain biking I would highly recommend the switchover. Instead of paying $3K for an electric mountain bike I bought the NCM and added forks, tires and also a Thudbuster seat post. The Thudbuster IMHO gets you half way to rear suspension. Good luck.

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In the EBR review of the Moscow Plus, a tapered spec is implied, although the stem on this fork is straight, the neck tube is

HEADSET:​

Neco, Integrated, Threadless Internal Cups, Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2"

STEM:​

Promax, Alloy, 90mm Length, 31.8mm Clamp Diameter, One 15mm Spacer, Two 10mm Spacers, One 5mm Spacer

I think there must be an adapter in there somewhere. The XCM fork is straight 1-1/8"
 

Decrepidude

Member
Region
Canada
There's a cable that goes from the left lever to the display. I'm not sure how this could work for other levers and if they need to support it.
FYI it's only the left lever on UK or AU bikes, most of the world uses the right lever for the back brakes, wherever you live, it's the lever for the rear brake that needs the inhibitor. I've got a plus, so not an issue for me...