Como 3.0 comes non-equipped, 4.0 has mudguards and lighting, 5.0 adds a pizza rack. Como is built on totally different philosophy from Vado: Comfy vs. sporty. For instance, bigger tyres compensate for the lack of suspension fork (if we are talking the North American version). EU Como is different:I thought that was weird with the como. Same price as the Vado but less parts. I mean they are pretty identical except for the fork and geometry.
Unfortunate that you didn’t have an Allant+7 to test. If you were impressed with the Verve+3 you’d have definitely wanted the Allant. Had there been any Specialized dealers near me, I probably would have had a harder choice.I bought the 2020 3.0 in the gray color (not the blue gray, the one that is actually gray).
I wish I would have known about the 1.2 vs 1.2e motor. When I was at the bike shop, the sales guy said that they had the same motor when I was asking for the differences between the 3.0 and 4.0. If I would have known it was a slightly more powerful motor with more torque, I would have at least test drove the 4.0. I didn't realize the 4.0 also came with a faster charger (4a vs 2a). The components alone for $500 more would be nice but not a huge deal. The components + slightly better motor + fast charger would have probably been enough for me to go to the other location and test ride the 4.0. I wish Specialized was more forward with their motor specs too, I could have made a better choice if I just knew that the motors were slightly different.
I am probably overthinking this though. I wanted this bike because it felt more engaging to ride. I could shift through gears and give the bike more, allowing a longer range. Riding my Lectric XP was fun, but the opposite of what this bike feels like. The XP was more in charge of the ride than I was. If I turned off the motor, the XP was grueling to pedal. The Vado feels like a normal bike without the motor on. I love that I get rewarded for shifting through my gears on the Vado 3.0. The gears on my XP are just a novelty to be honest, I rarely ever shifted out of the highest gear because the motor was pushing all the time anyways.
I still think that my 3.0 was probably the better choice. I just need to go up a few hills to put my mind at ease. If not, I have a 30 day return policy and I don't think they would mind me returning it as an exchange for the 4.0. I really don't think its going to be an issue though.
My LBS discounts the Como enough to cover the small addons like rack, fenders, etc. But not the Vado so much. I suspect the margins are different. Or Specialized marketing is just plain nuts.I thought that was weird with the como. Same price as the Vado but less parts. I mean they are pretty identical except for the fork and geometry.
This is very true. Its a one-two punch of not only being a cheap way to get into ebiking, but it's an excellent bike. I just watched Jeremiah Mcintosh (one of the original reviewers of the XP on youtube) put together a beefy middrive Rambo brand ebike today. He looked absolutely crushed at the end of his video when I realized that he liked his XP more, even though for all intents and purposes the Rambo should have been an upgrade. I don't like my Lectric more or less since I can't really compare the two toe to toe. They are both incredible for what they are.Some folks on here call the XP the "gateway drug of eBikes"
Congrats on your new ebike and I’m sure you’ll love it!
- 12 miles of up and down and I got home with 70% left in the battery. When I did a slightly shorter version of the same ride on my Lectric XP, I had about 5% left and had to ration power. I REALLY didn't want to have to ride my XP without power the last few blocks of my ride, I'd honestly get off and just push it.
- I'm not used to riding a bike with a real saddle. I think I'm going to be wearing my bike shorts for a bit until my underparts re-adjust to a non-comfort saddle. My tenders are going to hurt tomorrow.
- The bike is incredibly solid. Not a single flex, creak, rub, groan, nothing. It's extremely impressive how well this bike is put together. I enjoy Apple products for their fit and finish, I think this is in the same vein.
- Pedal strikes happen. I have a feeling I'm going to go through some pedals. I had 2 pedal strikes pedaling tight into turns at higher speed. I will say this though, these are the first stock bike pedals I have kept on any bike I've owned. I usually slap on Raceface Chesters on everything, but these pedals are grippy enough, flat, and wide.
It’s a gateway bike because of the price and it’s intended audience. I could have bought 5 Lectric XP’s for the price I paid for the Vado 4.0. For most people who use the bike, 12 miles is fine. Most people who ride the bike will likely get 2-3 times that, easily. That 12 miles would have doubled for me if it was a regular route too. I took it up the worst bunch of hills in my general area. The XP doesn’t have great range to begin with but again, their target customer is very unlikely to ride 30+ miles at a time.I fail to see how an XP would be a gateway to anything. The idea that a <12 mile ride would leave you pushing your ebike home at all is a joke.
Because I’ve been daily riding my XP for about a year. It’s more of a comfort focused bike. My other bikes are mountain bikes where I’m not in the saddle for hours and I wear padded mountain bike shorts when I doNot used to riding with a real saddle? Why not?
Yep. Nothing wrong with the pedals. I’m pretty rough on all my pedals to be honest. It’s all on me though, nothing wrong with the bike.Pedal strikes are more about proper turning than the pedals themselves.
I didnt get a chance to. It was just the parking lot and it was raining. I took it for a spin and it felt like how I’d expect it to. I just didn’t try to get it to 28mph at that time due to the circumstances. Since it worked, I had no reason to think it wouldn’t hit 28, especially since it was pretty effortless to get the lower spec’ed 3.0.It sounds like you got a class 1. You never went over 20 mph on your 12 mile test ride?
As I wrote under a separate post, your Specialized LBS will set your Vado to U.S. Class 3.I didnt get a chance to. It was just the parking lot and it was raining. I took it for a spin and it felt like how I’d expect it to. I just didn’t try to get it to 28mph at that time due to the circumstances. Since it worked, I had no reason to think it wouldn’t hit 28, especially since it was pretty effortless to get the lower spec’ed 3.0.
I found a reference to the same thing:Im a little worried now because I looked up the serial number C91143 and everything im seeing about it shows that its a 20mph limited motor. Did I get the Canadian version?
It doesn't mean a thing. All U.S. Class 3 Vado 4.0 are equipped with Specialized 1.2 motor (Brose T) and sport the 28 mph speed limit.I found a reference to the same thing:
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I read back some posts and see your 12 mile ride was actually on the 3.0. So that makes sense why you didn't go over 20 mph on the 4.0 since that was in the parking lot. I would definitely follow up with the LBS to see what they can do for you.
I told you not to worry, aye?One last update, I was able to call Specialized customer support, they confirmed with my serial number that its a class 3 and then checked the installed software. They said that it just had the wrong software update on it. I ran it over to my local bike shop and they fixed me right up in about 5 minutes.
You must be a fit person. Note that you are using only 35% Max Motor Power and get to 28 mph while I cannot get at the same 45 km/h unless am helped with some tailwind or ride on a slight declineI can easily be in eco mode with it tuned down to 35/35% and still get to 28mph and sustain close to it. Its nothing short of awesome.
Are you able to turn down the max power assistance any further? Or what exactly is the range? From what you describe, it sounds like the bike is giving more assistance that I would prefer. I have my lowest assist level set to 5% (which shows 30 to 35 watts on the power meter) on my e-bike but increase it on hills.With the Vado, I can easily be in eco mode with it tuned down to 35/35% and still get to 28mph and sustain close to it. Its nothing short of awesome.