New Specialized Levo SL

tomdav

Active Member
320Wh internal battery? Did we time travel back a decade?

"The [$16,525] Founder’s Edition Levo SL, however, comes equipped with two 160Wh Range Extender batteries, which effectively doubles its capacity."

 

Stefan Mikes

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@tomdav, I think Specialized certainly know what they are doing. It is not the power and the battery size that make a perfect e-MTB. It is its geometry, weight, agility and ability to assist the rider on technical trails. Please do not think in the commuter e-bike terms.
 

tomdav

Active Member
Oh, I totally get it. Market a lighter motor and smaller battery and see if people with more money than smarts will pay $6K (or $16K) for it. Even at 1.95kg the motor will weigh more than the one in this kit, and with this kit you can get an even smaller battery if that's your thing! And yes, I realize it's not ideal for a technical eMTB, just saying...

 
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tomdav

Active Member
I wonder why they are pricing the SL $500 higher than the TL Comp? I'd think with a 3x larger battery the TL Comp would price higher. Are the components on the SL Comp that much better or just reverse psychology marketing?
 

Stefan Mikes

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Tom, admit you are irritated because you (like most of us) cannot afford the SL ;)
(Not that I need an e-MTB. If I needed it, I would either go for Levo or for BH Lynx 6).
 

Solom01

Active Member
This is getting old. It's not "reverse psychology", it's just two different target audiences. Some people want heavy, ponderous ebikes with huge batteries and all sorts of fenders, etc. Other people are fitter, and like the nimble feeling of a light bike that rides more like a real bike. Arguing about which is the better choice is about as dumb as wondering why some people buy Miatas or Golf GTIs instead of Ram trucks or Ford F350s - if your mentality is that you get a lot more pounds of vehicle for your money when you buy an SUV or a truck that's your choice, but other people have different things they're looking for. Heck, if all I cared about was speed, power and range I could buy a gas motorcycle that would run circles around any ebike for about the same amount of money.
 

Jimbo08

Member
SL rides like a real Mtn bike. Felt like a normal bike, with a nudge of assist. I always found on the Levo I was 95% of the time in level 1 assist and that level 3 was too much. If you just want or need to sit back and be taken along for the ride, buy a Levo -still the smoothest, quietest, e Mtn bike out there that I have ridden. If you want to be more involved on a bike that is still making you feel super human, then go for the SL. Solom01 And Stefan already understand it! Look up the review at e-Mountain bike for a really accurate description of what it is, and isn't. I love it.
 

Ebiker01

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The BH CARBON ATOM LYNX 6 is 6-7k and 720wh with 42lb weight.
Only a clueless buyer would get something else.

 

tomdav

Active Member
Arguing about which is the better choice
Certainly not arguing about this. For some it will be the better choice. Just seems odd that for them, having 1/3 the battery would cost more unless there are other offsets. That's the reverse marketing psychology I was referring to. I'd think the entry pricing would be be somewhere in between MTB and eMTB.
 

FlatSix911

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Another interesting review...Specialized’s new electric bicycle is super lightweight and super expensive


Our rider feedback shows that mountain bikers love e-bikes, yet there is still a large segment of riders who think they are too heavy, lumbering, and not for them. While many brands have been working to add range and power, we’ve been working for the past three years behind the scenes to trim down and make the most efficient bike possible. Our solution is the Turbo Levo SL. “SL” stands for Super Light, and as light as 17.3 kilograms (38.25 pounds) in the top of the line S-Works model, it is 30% lighter than most competitor e-bikes. This isn’t just the lightest e-MTB in its class— it’s in a class of its own.

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Specialized actually built their own motor that weighs in at just under 2 kg (4.3 lb), which helps to bring the overall weight of the bike down. It’s not pushing out as much power as Specialized’s bigger motors, creating only 240W in the Turbo Levo SL, which is about all you can ask out of a lightweight motor like this. In fact, it’s the same motor used in the company’s high end electric road bikes and is designed to rely heavily on pedal assist from the rider. While many mid-drive motors can triple or quadruple the rider’s own power, the SL 1.1 motor in the Turbo Levo SL offers only double the rider’s input. When it comes to speed, the motor will power riders up to 25 km/h in Europe or 20 mph in the US.

Next, the battery measures in at just 320Wh. Again, that’s a bit smaller than most electric bikes out there but does help to drop the total weight of the bike. The downtube-enclosed battery is also non-removable (or at least not quickly removable since you have to pop the motor out first to get to it), which is another design consideration intended to reduce weight. If you need more range though, Specialized offers an auxiliary battery that slips into a bottle cage and can be plugged into the main pack’s charge port to piggy-back on another 160Wh of capacity.

So what does a bike like this cost? The base model
starts
at around $6,500, which will get you rolling with the aluminum frame Specialized Turbo Levo SL Comp edition. But if you have another $10,000 or so, you can upgrade to the Founder’s Edition for around $16,500.
 

bob armani

Well-Known Member
Looks like a bike that caters to a very specific class of riders. I would think those riders are not concerned about $$$ or range so much. They are probably out for a completely different riding experience they have never found in other eMTBs in this class. Perhaps a guy like Clint Gibbs could do some interesting maneuvers on this.o_O😜
 

bazzapage

Active Member
I have been promised a review bike by Specialized some time in March, so hopefully you'll get to seen an objective review by someone who inhabits these forums :)