New to e-bikes, looking for cargo/commuter bike

Jimmo

New Member
Hello,
I’m new to e-bikes and like the look of the RadPower Wagon 4.

I need primarily a commuter bike (7 miles each way), live in a hilly area & commute into city with not the friendliest/existent bike lanes.

Also I have 2 kids I’d like to go on short trips with (mostly around town, 5 miles round-trip).

I’d like a cargo bike with the option to slim down for commuting, so either trailer or detachable bike seats. I’d choose safety & maneuverability over speed.

Is there anything other than RadPower Wagon 4 that I should be looking at? I like some of the cargo bikes with cargo box in front but haven’t really seen any available in my area, and thinking it may be clunky for my commuting needs. I’m in central Connecticut.

thanks in advance for any advice and also I’m very open to suggestions for must-have accessories. Right now I commute with a bare bones standard bike. I’d love to have a rear-view mirror (helmet or handlebar?), lights (although don’t ride in the dark currently), and options for carrying work laptop (right now I just wear a backpack).
 

Dewey

Well-Known Member
If you're getting a RadWagon 4 certainly you should buy spare inner tubes from Rad Power designed to fit the proprietary 22"x3" wheel size they specced for this iteration of the bike. It might be possible to make a 24" inner tube fit, but no local bike shop is likely to have the RadWagon 4 inner tubes in stock so it's important to carry at least one spare tube with you on the bike. Other budget long tail options might include the Mongoose Envoy or Yuba Kombi longtail cargo pedal bikes converted with a kit motor, Xtracycle Leap longtail kit, or one of the several Rad competitors like the Blix Packa or Eunorau Cargo. Another flexible option is the Argo front box kit, carry your front wheel, unhook the box at drop off, replace your wheel and ride off as a normal ebike - Argo attaches via a spar to a Bottom Bracket adapter so it works for rear hub motor ebikes but doesn't work with mid-drive motor ebikes. I tow a trailer, or a Wee-hoo trailer cycle, with my mid-drive kit converted bike, and I've occasionally tied up the Wee-hoo outside school or the pool and rode off to work or run errands, most ebikes accept a child seat, so there are plenty of options, what sounds good to you?
 

E-Wheels

Well-Known Member
Hello,
I’m new to e-bikes and like the look of the RadPower Wagon 4.

I need primarily a commuter bike (7 miles each way), live in a hilly area & commute into city with not the friendliest/existent bike lanes.

Also I have 2 kids I’d like to go on short trips with (mostly around town, 5 miles round-trip).

I’d like a cargo bike with the option to slim down for commuting, so either trailer or detachable bike seats. I’d choose safety & maneuverability over speed.

Is there anything other than RadPower Wagon 4 that I should be looking at? I like some of the cargo bikes with cargo box in front but haven’t really seen any available in my area, and thinking it may be clunky for my commuting needs. I’m in central Connecticut.

thanks in advance for any advice and also I’m very open to suggestions for must-have accessories. Right now I commute with a bare bones standard bike. I’d love to have a rear-view mirror (helmet or handlebar?), lights (although don’t ride in the dark currently), and options for carrying work laptop (right now I just wear a backpack).
Have you considered a Tern GSD
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
Eunorau Long Trail Cargo

$1,839 (after discount code)
500W Dapu Mid Drive
48V 11.6Ah (14Ah available)




Eunorau Long Trail Cargo

$1,471 (after discount code)
750W hub motor
48V 11.6Ah (14Ah available)



VoltBike Kodiak

- $1899
- Hydraulic Brakes
- 48V 17.5Ah battery


I also believe that this bike's top speed can be unlocked to Class 3.



Voltbike Kodiak Electric Cargo Bike


M2S All Cargo

 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
If you're getting a RadWagon 4 certainly you should buy spare inner tubes from Rad Power designed to fit the proprietary 22"x3" wheel size they specced for this iteration of the bike. It might be possible to make a 24" inner tube fit, but no local bike shop is likely to have the RadWagon 4 inner tubes in stock so it's important to carry at least one spare tube with you on the bike. Other budget long tail options might include the Mongoose Envoy or Yuba Kombi longtail cargo pedal bikes converted with a kit motor, Xtracycle Leap longtail kit, or one of the several Rad competitors like the Blix Packa or Eunorau Cargo. Another flexible option is the Argo front box kit, carry your front wheel, unhook the box at drop off, replace your wheel and ride off as a normal ebike - Argo attaches via a spar to a Bottom Bracket adapter so it works for rear hub motor ebikes but doesn't work with mid-drive motor ebikes. I tow a trailer, or a Wee-hoo trailer cycle, with my mid-drive kit converted bike, and I've occasionally tied up the Wee-hoo outside school or the pool and rode off to work or run errands, most ebikes accept a child seat, so there are plenty of options, what sounds good to you?
I agree, I would not recommend RadWagon for this reason.

I don't know what bike you have, but can you imagine contacting your bike manufacture just to get a tube?
You would have to pay the shipping too, and it would take at least few days... and sometimes Rad does not have everything in stock either.

You would definitely have to get tubes and tires in stock.

I had a blown tire (the sidewall of tire had ballooning effect), needless to say, all I had to do was to go to local bike shop to get a new tire.

Also RadWagon has proprietary battery as well, not Reention or Hailong like other ebikes.
 

pualine

New Member
I think Ariel Rider C-Class is a very good option. I saw their new product which has lots of cargo options and comes with lot of nice features. If you never ride a cargo bike before I advise you to test ride one. They seem very useful but not easy to control. I had a Yuba e-bike but in the end I need to sell it. That bike was way too big for me
 

Timpo

Well-Known Member
I think Ariel Rider C-Class is a very good option. I saw their new product which has lots of cargo options and comes with lot of nice features. If you never ride a cargo bike before I advise you to test ride one. They seem very useful but not easy to control. I had a Yuba e-bike but in the end I need to sell it. That bike was way too big for me
He wants to carry 2 kids though, I don't think Ariel Rider C-Class will serve its purpose.

It has to be something similar to RadWagon.
 

byunbee

Well-Known Member
Here's another option on sale right now at Crazy Lenny's.
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Alex M

Well-Known Member
I saw people hauling kids around in something like This. Not saying it was exactly this bike, - 250W hub is ridiculously low.
Better view than the dad's back, and you see them too. Though with 2 kids it can get cramped.
 

Jimmo

New Member
Hello,
I’m new to e-bikes and like the look of the RadPower Wagon 4.

I need primarily a commuter bike (7 miles each way), live in a hilly area & commute into city with not the friendliest/existent bike lanes.

Also I have 2 kids I’d like to go on short trips with (mostly around town, 5 miles round-trip).

I’d like a cargo bike with the option to slim down for commuting, so either trailer or detachable bike seats. I’d choose safety & maneuverability over speed.

Is there anything other than RadPower Wagon 4 that I should be looking at? I like some of the cargo bikes with cargo box in front but haven’t really seen any available in my area, and thinking it may be clunky for my commuting needs. I’m in central Connecticut.

thanks in advance for any advice and also I’m very open to suggestions for must-have accessories. Right now I commute with a bare bones standard bike. I’d love to have a rear-view mirror (helmet or handlebar?), lights (although don’t ride in the dark currently), and options for carrying work laptop (right now I just wear a backpack).

Thanks for all the great advice & options. I spent a lot of time watching videos & looking at pros/cons this weekend and ultimately landed on the Radwagon. Tires & battery will be something I’ll be sure to stock up on early. It really was the time they’ve been around, affordability, and customer service (responsiveness to sales inquiries and from what I’ve seen in discussions) that ultimately sold me. Tires worry me most but given my short commute, availability of buses & back-up bike in garage, I’m still giving it a try. Again thank you, and your advice was very appreciated.
 

pualine

New Member
Here's another option on sale right now at Crazy Lenny's.
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Benno bikes are amazing. Wish prices are more in my range. But regardless If i could afford I would definitely buy.
 

Pcm

New Member
I think you'll be very happy with your RadWagon :) I have friends who have them and love them! I opted for a Tern GSD due to the smaller wheels (the Rad 4 wasn't out at the time) and have been very happy with it, but if I were making my decision today, I would likely opt for the cost savings afforded by the RadWagon 4. Congrats! :)