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Ebike 5k range longest distance on charge throttle only

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Timpo

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How many miles (or kms) do you need to go throttle only?
If you have $5,000 I think you can make a decent bike.
 

Timpo

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As I mentioned, RadMini.
It was posted here:

As you can see, 52V 21Ah battery is in the middle.
And you can add 52V 21Ah battery to replace your stock battery (Reention Polly), which is sold by Jenny.
If you need more, you can get an additional battery on the rear rack, additional 52V 21Ah, or higher.
So you can ger 52V 63Ah, or more.
You can go 48V too, if you want.
You will need a BGB DATEx3 battery converter to run all 3 pack simultaneously.
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indianajo

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As I mentioned, RadMini.
Yeah, nobody needs their teeth. Their tongue either. 28 mph through a pothole on 20" wheels would not be fun. The EBC's are 26" wheels, the Model x has 3" tires.
I don't understand the drive to 52 v batteries. My ebikeling hubmotor would draw 1300 W with 48 v. More than enough to warm the motor up effectively if used too much.
 
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tomjasz

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I don't understand the drive to 52 v batteries.
Agreed.
i moved from 36 to 48 and 48 to 52 and now back to 36V. 52V won’t overheat a motor.
My new 21700 36V 20Ah gives me great mileage and can carry my fat arse along at 20mph.
BTW That poster makes recommendations based on forum gossip. Not on experience.
 

rtp

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How many miles (or kms) do you need to go throttle only?

We’re all wasting time until OP answers this ‘simple’ question, IMO.
Throttle-only eats battery juice quickly. On my BBHSD I could go near full power for ~15 miles (pedaling still), or could go ride low PAS up-geared so I’m adding real human power on pas 2-3 of 9 for 20 miles and have 75% battery remaining - huge difference. On my X2 M600, I did a 30 miles (this one was very flat) ride at PAS 1/2 of 9, and still had 80% battery. I might make 10-15 miles before empty throttle only at max power.

So OP - more info is needed for people to make useful recommendations. (although I think @Timpo ’s recommendation on a dual-battery bike, even a small fat tire, could be a good answer..)
 

Timpo

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Yeah, nobody needs their teeth. Their tongue either. 28 mph through a pothole on 20" wheels would not be fun. The EBC's are 26" wheels, the Model x has 3" tires.
I don't understand the drive to 52 v batteries. My ebikeling hubmotor would draw 1300 W with 48 v. More than enough to warm the motor up effectively if used too much.
Oh I said 52v battery because the link and the RadMini in the pic had 52v, of course 48v would be enough so that's why I said 48v is an option too.

I do agree that RadMini isn't good for pothole, so yeah, maybe it's not an option, though other ebikes with small tires like Riese & Muller cargo bike offers 28mph.
I was thinking something like RadRover initially, but I know that OP was looking for a long range, and I knew that RadMini could hold that triangle battery in the middle and still have the battery behind the seatpost too, as it's been done.
 
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Timpo

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We’re all wasting time until OP answers this ‘simple’ question, IMO.
Throttle-only eats battery juice quickly. On my BBHSD I could go near full power for ~15 miles (pedaling still), or could go ride low PAS up-geared so I’m adding real human power on pas 2-3 of 9 for 20 miles and have 75% battery remaining - huge difference. On my X2 M600, I did a 30 miles (this one was very flat) ride at PAS 1/2 of 9, and still had 80% battery. I might make 10-15 miles before empty throttle only at max power.

So OP - more info is needed for people to make useful recommendations. (although I think @Timpo ’s recommendation on a dual-battery bike, even a small fat tire, could be a good answer..)
The OP has $5000 budget, I really think we can build a decent long range ebike for that kind of budget.
But yeah, more info needed.

Some 20 inch ebikes are quite high speed.
Super 73, Aerial Rider, Juiced HyperScrambler, etc.. they're all 20 inch.
And let's face it, these ebikes are mainly meant to go throttle only.
 
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Timpo

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This one fits nicely into $5000 budget.

This one may not give you a long range, as battery is just 960wh, but you can easy add the second battery.
It's been done and people reviewing them on YouTube
 

Amari5522

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66" tall will fit normal sized bikes. You would fit the blix & biktrix dual battery bikes. 24" wheels would be a lot more comfortable through a pothole than 20" wheels of a Radmini. A bike with suspension would be even better.
The electric bike company model x goes up to 28 mph has a throttle and can be bought with a 30 AH battery. Buy the 7 speed option so you don't have to pedal 2 rps to reach that speed. They claim up to 160 miles range with the big battery, although that is probably at 6 mph. https://electricbikecompany.com/model-x/
Model R has a suspension and can be bought with the 30 AH battery. https://electricbikecompany.com/model-r-2/
Again 7 speed sprockets are optional at extra cost. As is the basket to hold the battery.
Thank you
Ride safe
 

Amari5522

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The OP has $5000 budget, I really think we can build a decent long range ebike for that kind of budget.
But yeah, more info needed.

Some 20 inch ebikes are quite high speed.
Super 73, Aerial Rider, Juiced HyperScrambler, etc.. they're all 20 inch.
And let's face it, these ebikes are mainly meant to go throttle only.
Thank you
Ride safe
 

Amari5522

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What kind of bike are you looking for?

Fat bike? Mini fat bike? MTB? Cruiser?

Do you have any particular style you like?
I don’t have a drivers license so I need something to get around sometimes have to travel far
So really just looking for an ebike that gets the most miles with very little pedaling
Thank you
Ride safe
 

sc00ter

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Some states don't require a license for a moped. If your state doesn't require one to operate a moped get a Genuine Buddy 50cc or a Genuine Rough House. Or a Honda Metro or Ruckus. Great gas mileage and plenty of power for kicking around surface streets, and within your budget. Wait, never mind, I saw your OTHER same post saying you lost your license. So..... Apollo Phantom V3. One and done.
 
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Timpo

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I don’t have a drivers license so I need something to get around sometimes have to travel far
So really just looking for an ebike that gets the most miles with very little pedaling
Thank you
Ride safe
How far do you think your typical travel distance will be?

If you want something with little pedaling, I think Aerial Grizzly, Juiced Hyperscrambler, Rize Blade 2, Super 73, etc.. will suffice your requirement.
As those bikes are pretty much intended mainly for throttle use.
But I'm just wondering about the distance.
 

AHicks

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How far do you think your typical travel distance will be?

If you want something with little pedaling, I think Aerial Grizzly, Juiced Hyperscrambler, Rize Blade 2, Super 73, etc.. will suffice your requirement.
As those bikes are pretty much intended mainly for throttle use.
But I'm just wondering about the distance.
This is critical information!!!!!
Hate to see you not only loose your license, but also be down the price of a bike that won't do what you are needing/expecting....
 

PatriciaK

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The desire for range (distance), using almost total throttle with little pedaling is the whole issue here. OP said he wanted range, using throttle only, 90% of the time. What kind of average range, in miles, is needed/expected? That's the missing piece of information, IMO.
 

retiredNH

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The desire for range (distance), using almost total throttle with little pedaling is the whole issue here. OP said he wanted range, using throttle only, 90% of the time. What kind of average range, in miles, is needed/expected? That's the missing piece of information, IMO.
I'd add speed to the discussion, since speed impacts range dramatically. Hills are worse, and going up hills fast...
OP said 28 mph? At full speed, a battery will deplete quickly, unless the OP has a strong tailwind...
 

Timpo

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The desire for range (distance), using almost total throttle with little pedaling is the whole issue here. OP said he wanted range, using throttle only, 90% of the time. What kind of average range, in miles, is needed/expected? That's the missing piece of information, IMO.
Believe it or not, this is super common.

Many people want to use throttle 90% of the time, this is why throttle only intended ebikes are booming.
I just wanted to know about the range, I know more the better, but how much?

This is why I suggested RadMini, because it can carry 3 batteries, and make it 52V 63Ah+ (3,275+Ah).
But OP may not need that much.

If it's 48V, Luna sells 48V 24ah triangle battery, Jenny sells 48V 24.5Ah for Reention DP9, and rear rack can be whatever, let's say 48V 31.5Ah with using a 117pcs battery case like below, and you can have a 48V 80Ah battery.
 
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Amari5522

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can you be a little more specific?
it all depends.

motorcycles are throttle only, and you're looking for a best mileage as possible?
so you don't care about anything else, but just the best mileage?
Thank you for responding I don’t have a drivers license so the most important thing to me is mileage without peddling lol