Priority Bicycles just launched the most affordable Gates belt mid-drive e-bike

Jaime

New Member
Hi all,

I am new to this forum and new to e-bikes.
I recently tried to order the Priority Current with the Enviolo hub but learned that those models were sold out. So, instead I ordered two bikes with the Shimano hub, a medium white for my wife and a medium charcoal for me. I too, am curious about the difference between the two hubs, the Enviolo NuVinci 380 vs. the Shimano Nexus inter-5E. Does anyone have thoughts on their relative merits? Is the Current with the Shimano still a good choice?
 

Amishman

New Member
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Hi all,

I am new to this forum and new to e-bikes.
I recently tried to order the Priority Current with the Enviolo hub but learned that those models were sold out. So, instead I ordered two bikes with the Shimano hub, a medium white for my wife and a medium charcoal for me. I too, am curious about the difference between the two hubs, the Enviolo NuVinci 380 vs. the Shimano Nexus inter-5E. Does anyone have thoughts on their relative merits? Is the Current with the Shimano still a good choice?
I read the dealer’s manual and it appears this is an automatic CVT as opposed to Enviolo’s manual shift. It does not appear to me that the Shimano has quite the gear ratio. I think they’re both good. I haven’t heard of a bad Shimano product yet. I wouldn’t be afraid
 

wrightpwx

New Member
After a whopping 15 miles on my Current bike (Enviolo hub) I have the following observations:
1. Excellent build quality, well laid out.
2. Large frame works for me @ 6' 2"
3. I first took the bike to the hill of death near my house (not that high but Mont Ventoux steep). The 500 W motor was able to drag my 100 kg up the hill with maximum effort from me (which is not much). The Enviolo hub has a 3x gear ratio (by my crude measure) vs. current hub Shimano at 2x (I think) so perhaps the new hub would have more trouble with hills for larger riders.
4. Brakes worked well to moderate speed coming down the hill of death.
5. On my undulating route I found changing the PA mode and gear ratio a lot to keep up with. I finally gave up and left the PA at mode 4 and just used the extra power to build momentum going down for the next hill.
6. I had no problem with the shifter except I found it easiest to stop pedaling, turn the shifter and then start pedaling again. (the motor cuts out when shifting). I could not tell that I needed to break anything in.
7. The Enviolo shifter takes a lot of turning to get from grandma to full beans. I found myself having to turn the shifter, change my grip and then turn again to go from lock to lock.
8. I agree with one poster that it seems like you need to be in PA mode 1 on level ground to get the same "feel" as a regular bike.
9. Watch the video on the Priority website on how to remove the tire, it's straightforward but you don't want to try to figure it out on the road (and bring your wrench, it's not a quick release axle in the back).
9. Of course I have all these great questions after I cut the check: the frame is custom built for the mid-drive unit. Here's the question: should there be a problem down the road (manufacturer goes out of business and you can't get parts for example) can you install an alternative unit from another manufacturer? If you can't you'll be stuck with a beautiful 24 kg manual bike.
 

Amishman

New Member
After a whopping 15 miles on my Current bike (Enviolo hub) I have the following observations:
1. Excellent build quality, well laid out.
2. Large frame works for me @ 6' 2"
3. I first took the bike to the hill of death near my house (not that high but Mont Ventoux steep). The 500 W motor was able to drag my 100 kg up the hill with maximum effort from me (which is not much). The Enviolo hub has a 3x gear ratio (by my crude measure) vs. current hub Shimano at 2x (I think) so perhaps the new hub would have more trouble with hills for larger riders.
4. Brakes worked well to moderate speed coming down the hill of death.
5. On my undulating route I found changing the PA mode and gear ratio a lot to keep up with. I finally gave up and left the PA at mode 4 and just used the extra power to build momentum going down for the next hill.
6. I had no problem with the shifter except I found it easiest to stop pedaling, turn the shifter and then start pedaling again. (the motor cuts out when shifting). I could not tell that I needed to break anything in.
7. The Enviolo shifter takes a lot of turning to get from grandma to full beans. I found myself having to turn the shifter, change my grip and then turn again to go from lock to lock.
8. I agree with one poster that it seems like you need to be in PA mode 1 on level ground to get the same "feel" as a regular bike.
9. Watch the video on the Priority website on how to remove the tire, it's straightforward but you don't want to try to figure it out on the road (and bring your wrench, it's not a quick release axle in the back).
9. Of course I have all these great questions after I cut the check: the frame is custom built for the mid-drive unit. Here's the question: should there be a problem down the road (manufacturer goes out of business and you can't get parts for example) can you install an alternative unit from another manufacturer? If you can't you'll be stuck with a beautiful 24 kg manual bike.
What mileage between charges?
 

FlatSix911

Well-Known Member
After a whopping 15 miles on my Current bike (Enviolo hub) ...
Here's the question: should there be a problem down the road (manufacturer goes out of business and you can't get parts for example) can you install an alternative unit from another manufacturer?
If you can't you'll be stuck with a beautiful 24 kg manual bike.
Welcome to EBR and congratulations on your new Current EBike!
Thanks for posting your initial observations on the ride... did you also unlock the speed limiter from20 to 28mph?

Regarding your question on the motor, the unit is made by a company called Wuxi and called Truck-run TMO1.
If you had an issue down the road, you would need to repair or replace it with an identical unit. Hope this helps.
 
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wrightpwx

New Member
What mileage between charges?
In the interest of science I went out again today and rode 10 miles mostly level, maybe half PA 0 and half 1 to 3 (mostly 1). I used one bar off of a full battery (10%). I have confidence in the published numbers.
 

wrightpwx

New Member
Welcome to EBR and congratulations on your new Current EBike!
Thanks for posting your initial observations on the ride... did you also unlock the speed limiter from20 to 28mph?

Regarding your question on the motor, the unit is made by a company called Wuxi and called Truck-run TMO1.
If you had an issue down the road, you would need to repair or replace it with an identical unit. Hope this helps.
Thanks
I made it 30 minutes before increasing the speed to the max. I noticed the pedal cadence went to plaid over 20 MPH.
WRT motor drive (or anything else), can you get parts from Priority?
 

siqueirah

New Member
After a whopping 15 miles on my Current bike (Enviolo hub) I have the following observations:
1. Excellent build quality, well laid out.
2. Large frame works for me @ 6' 2"
3. I first took the bike to the hill of death near my house (not that high but Mont Ventoux steep). The 500 W motor was able to drag my 100 kg up the hill with maximum effort from me (which is not much). The Enviolo hub has a 3x gear ratio (by my crude measure) vs. current hub Shimano at 2x (I think) so perhaps the new hub would have more trouble with hills for larger riders.
4. Brakes worked well to moderate speed coming down the hill of death.
5. On my undulating route I found changing the PA mode and gear ratio a lot to keep up with. I finally gave up and left the PA at mode 4 and just used the extra power to build momentum going down for the next hill.
6. I had no problem with the shifter except I found it easiest to stop pedaling, turn the shifter and then start pedaling again. (the motor cuts out when shifting). I could not tell that I needed to break anything in.
7. The Enviolo shifter takes a lot of turning to get from grandma to full beans. I found myself having to turn the shifter, change my grip and then turn again to go from lock to lock.
8. I agree with one poster that it seems like you need to be in PA mode 1 on level ground to get the same "feel" as a regular bike.
9. Watch the video on the Priority website on how to remove the tire, it's straightforward but you don't want to try to figure it out on the road (and bring your wrench, it's not a quick release axle in the back).
9. Of course I have all these great questions after I cut the check: the frame is custom built for the mid-drive unit. Here's the question: should there be a problem down the road (manufacturer goes out of business and you can't get parts for example) can you install an alternative unit from another manufacturer? If you can't you'll be stuck with a beautiful 24 kg manual bike.
Thank you for the complete write-up. How does it compare to other ebikes (if you've tried others before) on hills? I'm thinking of the Priority Current over cheaper hub bikes (Juiced Crosscurrent X, Ride1UP LMT'D) due to the increased hill climbing ability of the mid drive and the impressive 140Nm torque.

If the Current doesn't perform noticeably stronger than hub bikes on hills, that would be a major disappointment for me.

Additionally, how's the experience riding a PAS 0? Since the battery is fairly small, I was wondering if it's still rideable on flat surfaces if the battery is completely gone.

Thanks!
 

wrightpwx

New Member
Thank you for the complete write-up. How does it compare to other ebikes (if you've tried others before) on hills? I'm thinking of the Priority Current over cheaper hub bikes (Juiced Crosscurrent X, Ride1UP LMT'D) due to the increased hill climbing ability of the mid drive and the impressive 140Nm torque.

If the Current doesn't perform noticeably stronger than hub bikes on hills, that would be a major disappointment for me.

Additionally, how's the experience riding a PAS 0? Since the battery is fairly small, I was wondering if it's still rideable on flat surfaces if the battery is completely gone.

Thanks!
Since I live in the middle of nowhere, I ordered a bike online instead of shopping at bike shops, therefore I have no basis for comparison with other e-bikes. Keep in mind that the Current you can buy now comes with a Shimano 5 speed hub with a gear ratio spread of ~200% (based on my research, I could be wrong) vs. ~300% with the original Enviolo hub, so the Current you can buy now may be less hill friendly than before. This doesn't mean that the current Current is less capable than the other bikes you mentioned however.
Most recently I rode on a fairly level packed gravel bike path and used PA0 about half the time, you can certainly easily ride in PA0 on a flat road.
 

siqueirah

New Member
Since I live in the middle of nowhere, I ordered a bike online instead of shopping at bike shops, therefore I have no basis for comparison with other e-bikes. Keep in mind that the Current you can buy now comes with a Shimano 5 speed hub with a gear ratio spread of ~200% (based on my research, I could be wrong) vs. ~300% with the original Enviolo hub, so the Current you can buy now may be less hill friendly than before. This doesn't mean that the current Current is less capable than the other bikes you mentioned however.
Most recently I rode on a fairly level packed gravel bike path and used PA0 about half the time, you can certainly easily ride in PA0 on a flat road.
Thank you! On the flip side, when I asked Priority about the differences at higher speeds, they said "In our experience it's easier to get to 28mph on the Shimano equipped bike than the enviolo"