RadMini update soon??

CrossfitCommute

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Buyer's remorse is real and so I do everything I can to future proof my choices lol struggle bus!
Anyways my lectric Xp has been overall great but...
It's heavy, I hate mechanical disc brakes and I hate 4 inch fattys.
Seeing Rad and the new City commuter with juice brakes and nice display has me wondering if they're going to give
the mini a similar make over. If it gets the same upgrades and weighs around 50-55 lbs I'm all in.
Any rumors?
 

Timpo

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Buyer's remorse is real and so I do everything I can to future proof my choices lol struggle bus!
Anyways my lectric Xp has been overall great but...
It's heavy, I hate mechanical disc brakes and I hate 4 inch fattys.
Seeing Rad and the new City commuter with juice brakes and nice display has me wondering if they're going to give
the mini a similar make over. If it gets the same upgrades and weighs around 50-55 lbs I'm all in.
Any rumors?
I'm confused.

You sound like you wish you had a RadMini but you also don't like 4 inch tires?
 

Timpo

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Also upgrading to hydraulic brakes isn't hard.
What kind of motor inhibitor connector you have on your bike?
Is it Higo 2 pin?
 

Timpo

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My Rad Mini came with 3" street tires.
Ohh.. okay.

But still, if you don't like the Lectric XP's 4 inch tire, can't you just switch the tire?

I think switching the whole bike just because of tire size is a bit too much.
 

Gordon71

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Ohh.. okay.

But still, if you don't like the Lectric XP's 4 inch tire, can't you just switch the tire?

I think switching the whole bike just because of tire size is a bit too much.
In my case I was planning to get the XP as an easy bike to transport as well as the lower price. But I already had a Rad Rover and decided it would be stupid to get the XP as most all the components for the mini were the same as the rover especially the battery. I had also watched a side by side comparison video of the XP and mini. The XP was faster which was of 0 interest to me but the mini was said to be the overall better bike. I must say though that I do like the tires on the mini better than the ones on my rover. I'll probably switch to a street tire on the rover when the ones that came on it wear out. They have 2 years and over 3,000 miles on them and still have plenty of tread though so guess I'll get at least another year out of them. For me the brakes are no issue as they don't get all that much use and are simple to adjust.
 

AHicks

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In my case I was planning to get the XP as an easy bike to transport as well as the lower price. But I already had a Rad Rover and decided it would be stupid to get the XP as most all the components for the mini were the same as the rover especially the battery. I had also watched a side by side comparison video of the XP and mini. The XP was faster which was of 0 interest to me but the mini was said to be the overall better bike. I must say though that I do like the tires on the mini better than the ones on my rover. I'll probably switch to a street tire on the rover when the ones that came on it wear out. They have 2 years and over 3,000 miles on them and still have plenty of tread though so guess I'll get at least another year out of them. For me the brakes are no issue as they don't get all that much use and are simple to adjust.
The lesson I learned about running street tires on a fatty was not good. I tried 26x4 Origin 8's and then 26x3 Kenda Flames. They have a self steering issue until they have enough pressure in them to just about ruin any thoughts of a good ride. Origin 8's still have all the tit's on the tires, Kenda Flames still have most. Both will be for sale soon, will come with inner tubes.

Bike has been converted to 27.5 x2.8" Schwalbe Super Moto-X balloon tires, the way I should have ordered it originally. Very sure footed, great ride, and surprisingly low rolling resistance even when run at low pressure. Live and learn....
 

Banzai

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Any rumors?
You may be onto something because RAD is at least contemplating changes in the RADMini. I know this because they recently sent out a questionnaire to Mini buyers asking for suggestions for changes. With the latest updates in the RADCity that really improved that bike, it's not inconceivable that the Mini will get some similar updates. Questions regarding whether tires should be narrower and if the folding ability is really necessary, and also asked about better handlebar styles, fenders, and seats, and then finalized by asking for suggestions each rider thinks will improve the Mini. Might be worth a wait.
 

Gordon71

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"They have a self steering issue until they have enough pressure in them to just about ruin any thoughts of a good ride." What is that pressure? I have 20 in the Rover tires and 25 in the Mini.
 

AHicks

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"They have a self steering issue until they have enough pressure in them to just about ruin any thoughts of a good ride." What is that pressure? I have 20 in the Rover tires and 25 in the Mini.
20-22 psi in the rear, about 18 in front, is about what I was running as a compromise between the self steering issue and trying to maintain a decent ride. It would still exhibit some self steering, but it was more at a level that was irritating than something that would take you by surprise. The surprise I experienced was that at that 20 psi, IMHO, the fatty's do not ride as well as the Schwalbe balloon tires, they FEEL heavier (because they are), and there's way more rolling resistance. For comparison, the Schwalbe balloon tires are running at about 30-35psi in back and 20-25 in the front.

If it were not for the self steering issue, the street fatty's would be awesome. The issue with the street tires is, I think, the amount of contact area/rubber actually in contact with the pavement. There just too much at lower pressures. Knobby types don't have that issue at all! That's why I bring this up frequently. NOBODY (or rarely at best) is talking about the self steering issue exhibited by the fat street tires. I hate the idea of people spending the money those darn things cost, only to discover a rather unpleasant surprise.... -Al
 

Gordon71

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20-22 psi in the rear, about 18 in front, is about what I was running as a compromise between the self steering issue and trying to maintain a decent ride. It would still exhibit some self steering, but it was more at a level that was irritating than something that would take you by surprise. The surprise I experienced was that at that 20 psi, IMHO, the fatty's do not ride as well as the Schwalbe balloon tires, they FEEL heavier (because they are), and there's way more rolling resistance. For comparison, the Schwalbe balloon tires are running at about 30-35psi in back and 20-25 in the front.

If it were not for the self steering issue, the street fatty's would be awesome. The issue with the street tires is, I think, the amount of contact area/rubber actually in contact with the pavement. There just too much at lower pressures. Knobby types don't have that issue at all! That's why I bring this up frequently. NOBODY (or rarely at best) is talking about the self steering issue exhibited by the fat street tires. I hate the idea of people spending the money those darn things cost, only to discover a rather unpleasant surprise.... -Al
Interesting,thank you. The 3" street tires on the mini obviously have less rolling resistance and are quieter than the rover tires which is why I was thinking of switching to Origin 8's. On the other hand the 8's are twice or more the cost of the stock Kendas and in truth I'm very happy with the stock rover anyway
 

Gordon71

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I should have added that one thing I didn't like about the mini was that at full extension it was still a bit short on me (I'm 5'11"). I replaced the seat post with a longer 450mm post for around $22 and that made a huge difference.
 

AHicks

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Interesting,thank you. The 3" street tires on the mini obviously have less rolling resistance and are quieter than the rover tires which is why I was thinking of switching to Origin 8's. On the other hand the 8's are twice or more the cost of the stock Kendas and in truth I'm very happy with the stock rover anyway
If you'd like to try a set of Origin 8's at a reduced price, I could help you out. They're like new, and will come with a set of tubes. I'd love to hear somebody else's point of view. Shoot me a PM if interested. -Al
 

Timpo

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Interesting,thank you. The 3" street tires on the mini obviously have less rolling resistance and are quieter than the rover tires which is why I was thinking of switching to Origin 8's. On the other hand the 8's are twice or more the cost of the stock Kendas and in truth I'm very happy with the stock rover anyway
The stock Kendas are pretty much the worst tires on the market, if you care about rolling resistance.
Yeah they're cheap, but you only get what you pay for.
 

Gordon71

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The stock Kendas are pretty much the worst tires on the market, if you care about rolling resistance.
Yeah they're cheap, but you only get what you pay for.
I'm sure you are correct but since I'm happy with the bike and the amount of use I'm getting out of the tires would the improvement be worth the cost to me? This is still all pretty new to me. Presently I have over 3,000 miles on the tires and expect over a 1,000 more before they're worn out. How much more wear would I get out of tires costing more than twice as much?
 

Timpo

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I'm sure you are correct but since I'm happy with the bike and the amount of use I'm getting out of the tires would the improvement be worth the cost to me? This is still all pretty new to me. Presently I have over 3,000 miles on the tires and expect over a 1,000 more before they're worn out. How much more wear would I get out of tires costing more than twice as much?
I am not sure, but if tire wear is your biggest concern, then paying extra may not worth much for you.

More expensive does not mean longer life.
For example, they tend to be a lot lighter, and give you more grip, etc.. but not necessarily made for long distance.

Schewalbe Jumbo jim for example, is whole a lot lighter than Kenda and gives you much better grip, with a lot less rolling resistance.
As far as mileage goes, I am not sure.