Radrunner lcd display alternatives?

kongrui1984

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As mentioned, there's nothing available on the website that assures compatibility. Would you go through the trouble of getting a quote, wading through the "buying experience", waiting for it to arrive, and plugging it in WITHOUT assurance it was going to work beforehand? Of exactly what I can expect has been upgraded?

Give me the reasons for believing these are "upgrades", or maybe a list of the ones that will work on my RAD product, as I don't see anything! -Al
Refering on this thread, we only talk about the Rad bikes, I don't know KT systems or other system, they may be different protocols. I'm sure for Rad, we can do compatible because WE MADE THEM. you can give me the series number on the back of your Rad display. I check in my system and made the compatible one as you request.
As for "upgrade", I don't know your "Upgrade" includes, in my opnion, you by a color display replace the LCD one , that is an upgrade, and of course it will show more content than old one.
If you do not like the process on buying them by email, I would only say sorry for that , because we do it as our AFTERSALE PROCESS.
I only take this out as an option to have your display replacement.
 

kongrui1984

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I have an older KT display non color. Is there ever a danger in trying a non compatible display even when it has the same plug?
NO, the plug is limit choice for manufacturers , but there are random protocols and changes in display, so you should not only check them by connector.
 

kongrui1984

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The king meter guy said they all work on Rads.
I posted a confusing post earlier, what I really need to know is if anyone has put an older KT display on a newer KT controller for troubleshooting or whatever. They have the same setup terms and same cable.
For rad ,we use the same communication system, so I can say we works well on that.
For KT system , sorry I don't know well about their products, you can contact with their website for trouble shooting , using the series number on the displya. I think they can help you.
 

kongrui1984

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I was previously of the opinion that having different connectors for what appeared to be an identical controller was a ploy to force a buyer to purchase the OEM replacement. In fact, displays can look alike but have different firmware versions. At least that's my takeaway.
Exactly! the display may use same plug, but you cannot say they use same communication protocol or firmware, it may unusable if not identical.
 

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Refering on this thread, we only talk about the Rad bikes, I don't know KT systems or other system, they may be different protocols. I'm sure for Rad, we can do compatible because WE MADE THEM. you can give me the series number on the back of your Rad display. I check in my system and made the compatible one as you request.
As for "upgrade", I don't know your "Upgrade" includes, in my opnion, you by a color display replace the LCD one , that is an upgrade, and of course it will show more content than old one.
If you do not like the process on buying them by email, I would only say sorry for that , because we do it as our AFTERSALE PROCESS.
I only take this out as an option to have your display replacement.
Finally, some progress. So are you telling us we can buy a color display from Kingmeter for our RAD bikes and

1. It will be compatible/work with our OEM RAD controllers?
2. There will be more functions included in the color display? Can you be more specific regarding this? Maybe list the additional functions?
 

kongrui1984

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Finally, some progress. So are you telling us we can buy a color display from Kingmeter for our RAD bikes and

1. It will be compatible/work with our OEM RAD controllers?
2. There will be more functions included in the color display? Can you be more specific regarding this? Maybe list the additional functions?
1, I mean work with original Rad controllers, I donot know what is OEM controller means. is it replaced by DIY?
2, for Example N5236 we can add bluetooth function and you can check your riding data from phone app, also Navi function.
K5242, we have Speed data statistics recording.
aparently, color screen have more graphical and dynamic display than normal LCD ones.
 

AHicks

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1, I mean work with original Rad controllers, I donot know what is OEM controller means. is it replaced by DIY?
2, for Example N5236 we can add bluetooth function and you can check your riding data from phone app, also Navi function.
K5242, we have Speed data statistics recording.
aparently, color screen have more graphical and dynamic display than normal LCD ones.
OEM = Original Equipment as Manufactured

Or in other words, the controller it was originally assembled with. NOT something purchased aftermarket.
 

kongrui1984

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OEM = Original Equipment as Manufactured

Or in other words, the controller it was originally assembled with. NOT something purchased aftermarket.
Yes, I know what OEM is , you said the OEM controller is the original one right, that is what we can compat with.
 

Oendaril

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Hey, i'm not sure if this is too off-topic but I noticed that the radrunner looks like it has an identical display to the new ariel rider rideal that's coming out. It seems to be the king-meter t320, but the bike hasn't been released yet so there is no way to fully confirm on the back yet. If this is also the same display, does that mean the rideal would also be a drop in replacement for the display like the radmission/radrunner are?

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kongrui1984

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Hey, i'm not sure if this is too off-topic but I noticed that the radrunner looks like it has an identical display to the new ariel rider rideal that's coming out. It seems to be the king-meter t320, but the bike hasn't been released yet so there is no way to fully confirm on the back yet. If this is also the same display, does that mean the rideal would also be a drop in replacement for the display like the radmission/radrunner are?

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Hi, yes, it is King-meter's prodect, in fact, if you seen this shape of LED display, it is made by us. but I need to tell you it may not be replacable for Rad bikes, because they may use different communication protocol to the controller. don't try it, unless you give me the series number of Ariel Rider display.
 

yopines

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Hi Kongrui1984,

I have a new eBike with Front/Rear Bafang 750W Motors G060 (G060.750.DC 48V 750W).
I have two 25Amp controllers and two Samsung batteries 17.8AH each

They are connected to your companies King-Meter SW-LCD.


Issues observed:

1. Battery management is not working - I have contacted manufacturer who are consulting with King-Meter now
2. There is a 2-3 second throttle delay which cannot be removed from the Menu items - Throttle response is delayed and it is really annoying. In many situation, a rider needs immediate access to Current to get out of a dangerous situation.
3. Speed Limit of 40 km/h cannot be changed. This makes no sense. In the USA, class 3 eBikes are allowed up to 28 mph (45 km/h) and furthermore, there are No Limits when you use your eBike off-roading (except in posted limit area).
4. Maximum current from Controllers cannot be achieved. My two controllers are rated for 25 Amps and the King-Meter limits my current to 22 Amps. I am not even sure if it is limited to 22 Amps Total (11 Amps each controller or 22 Amps limit each)?


I also have a Sondors eBike with a Bafang 500W Motor and a 15 Amp controller (KT-LCD?). On that controller a simple code brings you to an advanced programming menu where you can remove the speed limit, increase current, etc. On that Bike I can ride at 22 mph!

I am sure that if the limits are removed on the King-Meter controller I would enjoy much better performance on my new eBike

How do I access the advanced menu to change some of the controllers values? I tried some key presses and it did bring me to an advance menu, however it asks for a Code to get in.

Any assistance or help would benefit many!

Thanks
 

tomjasz

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The trouble with RAD and EggRider.

UPDATE: if you have Rad bike please use RadPower Mode running strategy with caution. If you see current higher than 25A I would strongly suggest not use this mode anymore. We are investigating some potential issues.
I know many of you are waiting for the new release.
Mobile apps are now approved in the app stores. (for now available only for beta testers)
I would really appreciate some feedback from the beta testers. Please let us know how it goes.
We added some guidelines for the firmware update to v2.5.17, please see here:
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The firmware v2.5.17 is now on bitbucket.
To join the Android beta:
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To join the iOS beta:
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Release notes here:
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Stay safe and enjoy your ride!
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kongrui1984

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Hi Kongrui1984,

I have a new eBike with Front/Rear Bafang 750W Motors G060 (G060.750.DC 48V 750W).
I have two 25Amp controllers and two Samsung batteries 17.8AH each

They are connected to your companies King-Meter SW-LCD.


Issues observed:

1. Battery management is not working - I have contacted manufacturer who are consulting with King-Meter now, what management do you need for the battery? check more battery info? it is need to communicate with the BMS, if you cannot receive the data, it may because you donot have that communication.
2. There is a 2-3 second throttle delay which cannot be removed from the Menu items - Throttle response is delayed and it is really annoying. In many situation, a rider needs immediate access to Current to get out of a dangerous situation. the throttle is separatly connected to the controller ,so it has nothing to do with the display.
3. Speed Limit of 40 km/h cannot be changed. This makes no sense. In the USA, class 3 eBikes are allowed up to 28 mph (45 km/h) and furthermore, there are No Limits when you use your eBike off-roading (except in posted limit area). 40km/h speed is so fast bro, usually we set the speed limit range in 12-40km/h, so 40 is the max limit.
4. Maximum current from Controllers cannot be achieved. My two controllers are rated for 25 Amps and the King-Meter limits my current to 22 Amps. I am not even sure if it is limited to 22 Amps Total (11 Amps each controller or 22 Amps limit each)? Do you use 2 controllers and 2 battery together in the same time? actually we have advanced options according to your current protocol, please give me your firmware version number, pressing and hold all three buttons in the same time, it will comes out the version number. If you can take a photo of the series number on the back of the display will be better for more info.


I also have a Sondors eBike with a Bafang 500W Motor and a 15 Amp controller (KT-LCD?). On that controller a simple code brings you to an advanced programming menu where you can remove the speed limit, increase current, etc. On that Bike I can ride at 22 mph!

I am sure that if the limits are removed on the King-Meter controller I would enjoy much better performance on my new eBike

How do I access the advanced menu to change some of the controllers values? I tried some key presses and it did bring me to an advance menu, however it asks for a Code to get in. I need the series number to make sure the password.

Any assistance or help would benefit many!

Thanks
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