Range/hypermiling experiences with 500Wh EnergyPak (Road E Pro)

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Curious what other people's experiences are with 500Wh EnergyPak range. I have a 2019 Road E Pro from August with about 3,000mi/4800Km on it. What is the most distance and/or climbing accomplished in one ride with this battery?
 

RabH

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Curious what other people's experiences are with 500Wh EnergyPak range. I have a 2019 Road E Pro from August with about 3,000mi/4800Km on it. What is the most distance and/or climbing accomplished in one ride with this battery?
I have the 2018 model and I have managed to get over 100 miles (152 is my record with 7,275 ft of climbing) on many ocassions but that was using only eco mode and turning the assist off regularly! When I did my 152 mile ride I had the assist switched off for the first 70 miles due to a nice 15mph tail wind and fairly flat terrain!

When I turned for home into the 15mph headwind I was using eco mode only and lower gears to keep a nice spinning cadence, I had to be mindful of the climbs in the last 30 miles and luckily I judged it perfectly! I think 70 miles is easily achievable depending on the terrain involved and wind speed, big climbs and strong headwinds really eat up battery power but using the gears properly makes a big difference! What's your longest ride so far and what were the conditions?
 

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What's your longest ride so far and what were the conditions?

Wow, really cool to get 152mi! I've done two 100mi rides, one with 4000ft, 1 with 5000ft. Didn't really have major wind assist. I was looking to see if I could do 200K next. Also I did 70mi ride with 7000ft and had 45% left at the end. Next I want to see if I can do 10K ft in a ride.

Like you alternating between Eco mode (with the Ridecontrol app tuning it down to 50% of factory default) and motor turned off.

I have two criteria to judge whether the e-bike ride was more successful than just doing it on a conventional bike. (1) Overall avg speed should be significantly better than I could do on a conventional bike (2) I should feel less tired and wasted at the end then I would on a conventional bike. For all three of the above rides, both these were true. One of the centuries was my first time having an under 5 hour century ride time in my life.
 

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Wow, really cool to get 152mi! I've done two 100mi rides, one with 4000ft, 1 with 5000ft. Didn't really have major wind assist. I was looking to see if I could do 200K next. Also I did 70mi ride with 7000ft and had 45% left at the end. Next I want to see if I can do 10K ft in a ride.

Like you alternating between Eco mode (with the Ridecontrol app tuning it down to 50% of factory default) and motor turned off.

I have two criteria to judge whether the e-bike ride was more successful than just doing it on a conventional bike. (1) Overall avg speed should be significantly better than I could do on a conventional bike (2) I should feel less tired and wasted at the end then I would on a conventional bike. For all three of the above rides, both these were true. One of the centuries was my first time having an under 5 hour century ride time in my life.
A 70 mile ride with 7000ft of climbing is impressive and with 45% battery left I think 10k could be possible, it would be quite an achievement! I guess your assist cuts off at 15.5mph to get that kind of distance? When I did my 152 mile ride I didn't have the app so eco was set at 100%, I have now lowered all my assist levels to the minimum through the app but my battery is almost 2 years old now and isn't as strong but it's still capable of long distances!

6 years previous to my 152 mile ride I did the same route (but in the opposite direction) on my conventional bike, distance covered was actually 154.8 miles with 6312ft of climbing) and my average was 15mph exactly which was slightly better than my e bike average which was 14.3mph (assist cuts off at 15.5mph)

My conventional bike was half the weight of my e bike so its no surprise really! The main difference was much less fatigue with the e bike! Its always hard to compare rides though as conditions are never the same! When I was using my conventional bike I always set off into the wind to make sure I had a tailwind on the way home (it was a pain when the wind changed direction ;)) I do the opposite with the e bike :D
 

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I guess your assist cuts off at 15.5mph to get that kind of distance?
I'm in the U.S. so my Road E Pro is a Class 3 with assistance to 28mph. I actually wish I could lower that down to 20mph to help conserve battery without having to pay as much attention to turning the motor on and off. But anyway, this allows me to go much faster than my conventional bike. Both of my centuries would have been over 6 hours riding (between 15-17mph) time on my conventional bike despite it being so much lighter. Really neat to hear your experiences.
 

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I'm in the U.S. so my Road E Pro is a Class 3 with assistance to 28mph. I actually wish I could lower that down to 20mph to help conserve battery without having to pay as much attention to turning the motor on and off. But anyway, this allows me to go much faster than my conventional bike. Both of my centuries would have been over 6 hours riding (between 15-17mph) time on my conventional bike despite it being so much lighter. Really neat to hear your experiences.
That's impressive then, you must be really fit to achieve that kind of mileage with a Class 3 :) We can only dream of speeds like that but I have my motorbike which fulfils my need for speed;) The Road E is no slouch on the downhills though, I regurarly hit over 40 mph and its extremely stable with its low centre of gravity!
 

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That's impressive then, you must be really fit to achieve that kind of mileage with a Class 3 :) We can only dream of speeds like that but I have my motorbike which fulfils my need for speed;) The Road E is no slouch on the downhills though, I regurarly hit over 40 mph and its extremely stable with its low centre of gravity!
How many total miles do you have on your Giant?
 

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Nice work, that took me 23 months but its mostly just Sundays and some Saturdays! Do you commute or is just leisure cycling?

I do commute 3x per week at 20 miles round trip. All my leisure cycling is with E now too. Poor Moots is languishing collecting dust.
 

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I do commute 3x per week at 20 miles round trip. All my leisure cycling is with E now too. Poor Moots is languishing collecting dust.
Its hard to go back as the Road E is just awesome, it never fails to put a smile on my face :D You sure do a lot of leisure miles then!
 

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Just to add a follow up on this old thread. This past week my 2019 Road E just went over 20,000 miles since I got it in Aug 2019. In May 2020 I got a second battery for it which I carry on a rack and switch out mid-ride, so a total of 1Kwh of battery capacity. I've done 3 200 mile double centuries on it, only using ECO with the mode tuned to 50% and motor turned off for descents and flat. Most climbing in one ride is 12,500ft on the two batteries with ECO at 75%. Motor has been 100% solid all these miles. Battery life is declining slightly, but not as much as I anticipated. Replaced the RideControl Evo with a Ridecontrol ONE ANT recently and really love having the battery data on my Garmin. Been impressed with how this bike is holding up with rough gravel and MTB riding as well as road (have two wheelsets that I switch between)
 

RabH

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Just to add a follow up on this old thread. This past week my 2019 Road E just went over 20,000 miles since I got it in Aug 2019. In May 2020 I got a second battery for it which I carry on a rack and switch out mid-ride, so a total of 1Kwh of battery capacity. I've done 3 200 mile double centuries on it, only using ECO with the mode tuned to 50% and motor turned off for descents and flat. Most climbing in one ride is 12,500ft on the two batteries with ECO at 75%. Motor has been 100% solid all these miles. Battery life is declining slightly, but not as much as I anticipated. Replaced the RideControl Evo with a Ridecontrol ONE ANT recently and really love having the battery data on my Garmin. Been impressed with how this bike is holding up with rough gravel and MTB riding as well as road (have two wheelsets that I switch between)
Amazing effort, I managed almost 116 miles today and I thought I was doing well! I have 306 miles to go to reach 20,000 miles!