SONDORS is releasing it's first mid-drive EBikes.

Taylor57

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You get all the parts to make it a mtb, but you don't get high quality parts. That's when you get it at the price. Well that and you are willing to pay for something off a computer rendering and help finance the manufacturing and shipping without test riding and knowing what all the features are.


Worse case scenario you blew 2 grand on a bike that will work just fine...
 

rich c

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Worse case scenario you blew 2 grand on a bike that will work just fine...
Funny! That's the worst case? I didn't know all internet sold bikes work just fine. I guess all those complaints or issues asked on this forum about internet eBikes are made up? My Sondors fat bike worked for 1,600 miles before motor failure, my Haibike is at 4,600 miles and going strong. I have direct experience with their products. You?
 

Taylor57

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Funny! That's the worst case? I didn't know all internet sold bikes work just fine. I guess all those complaints or issues asked on this forum about internet eBikes are made up? My Sondors fat bike worked for 1,600 miles before motor failure, my Haibike is at 4,600 miles and going strong. I have direct experience with their products. You?

I have 2 internet bikes that are both somewhat new. 350 miles and 100 miles and I have about 2k invested. If they break, I try and get them fixed. If it does not make financial sense to fix, I scrap. If I get 1600 miles out of either one before they break, so be it. Life is short, take a chance-hey you never know I may end up buying a Bulls one day...
 

reed scott

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You get all the parts to make it a mtb, but you don't get high quality parts. That's why you get it at the price. Well that and you are willing to pay for something off a computer rendering and help finance the manufacturing and shipping without test riding and knowing what all the features are. I liked the rendering a lot, the prototypes not nearly as much.

For all we know the parts on Sondor's bikes will be ok for recreational riders, which will be the huge majority of those who buy them. Racing parts are coveted by racers and extreme trail riders. Most of us on this board it seems do not ride that way. Maybe the forks will die an early death like other cheap forks. Maybe they'll go a couple years ... or more. I doubt the drive train will die early. Brakes? Not with recreational riding. There really is no logic in judging this type of bike by high end pro/semi pro standards.
 

tedpenman

New Member
For all we know the parts on Sondor's bikes will be ok for recreational riders, which will be the huge majority of those who buy them. Racing parts are coveted by racers and extreme trail riders. Most of us on this board it seems do not ride that way. Maybe the forks will die an early death like other cheap forks. Maybe they'll go a couple years ... or more. I doubt the drive train will die early. Brakes? Not with recreational riding. There really is no logic in judging this type of bike by high end pro/semi pro standards.

I fully agree. I mostly ride on trails but before I judge if its suited for it, i will wait for the reviews that come out in October and the listing of components. I don't mind investing some money on better components if they are lacking. Like you said, for most I am sure it will be sufficient.
 

Ebiker33

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Some are writing like they would scrap the Ebike if stuff failed.

WHY ?

The most expensive part on this Ebike is the motor by far, if it failed I would buy the upgraded version from Watt Wagon, everything else tires, rim, brakes, shocks, chains, cassettes are not super expensive to replace comparatively and will be subject to faster wearing with a stronger motor, but that would apply to any Ebike with an Ultra motor.

The only reason worth scraping the Ebike would be if it had a total frame failure that was either off warranty or not covered by it's warranty, and how I ride that's not going to happen.
Also maybe if your motor and your battery died at the same time then yeah, otherwise just replace what fails or wears out.
 

mdl2020

New Member
I shure hope the LX comes with a cassette instead of a freewheel. I know the Rockstar is getting an upgrade but it didn't sound like the other 2 were. At least if it had a cassette I wouldn't have to change the hub and re-spoke the wheel just to provide more gearing options.
 

tedpenman

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I shure hope the LX comes with a cassette instead of a freewheel. I know the Rockstar is getting an upgrade but it didn't sound like the other 2 were. At least if it had a cassette I wouldn't have to change the hub and re-spoke the wheel just to provide more gearing options.

Although i looked it up, I didn't readily find a good explanation of the difference and why the cassette is a better option. Can you explain please?
 

mdl2020

New Member
Although i looked it up, I didn't readily find a good explanation of the difference and why the cassette is a better option. Can you explain please?
Some of the advantages that I'm aware of include a much larger choice of gear ranges and the ability to replace individual gears as they wear. A freewheel set up uses a different hub than a cassette set up and cannot be adapted one to the other. Most freewheel set ups are used on entry level bikes. The cassette configuration also has better load capability because of the bearing locations. Park tool has some good videos on Youtube that explain it and there are some others as well.
 

tedpenman

New Member
Some of the advantages that I'm aware of include a much larger choice of gear ranges and the ability to replace individual gears as they wear. A freewheel set up uses a different hub than a cassette set up and cannot be adapted one to the other. Most freewheel set ups are used on entry level bikes. The cassette configuration also has better load capability because of the bearing locations. Park tool has some good videos on Youtube that explain it and there are some others as well.
Thank you!
 

BigNerd

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Funny! That's the worst case? I didn't know all internet sold bikes work just fine. I guess all those complaints or issues asked on this forum about internet eBikes are made up? My Sondors fat bike worked for 1,600 miles before motor failure, my Haibike is at 4,600 miles and going strong. I have direct experience with their products. You?

LBS ebikes have issues too.
 

tedpenman

New Member
LBS ebikes have issues too.
Of course if you are the one that has the issue, then to you, it’s a bad and valid point. But for those that don’t have ebike problems then your point is not valid. We all take risks when purchasing anything and it is time that prevails...if it’s truly a bad product then the claims will come pouring out. Until then I’m taking that 2k to the sondors bank and cant wait to find out!
 

BigNerd

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Of course if you are the one that has the issue, then to you, it’s a bad and valid point. But for those that don’t have ebike problems then your point is not valid. We all take risks when purchasing anything and it is time that prevails...if it’s truly a bad product then the claims will come pouring out. Until then I’m taking that 2k to the sondors bank and cant wait to find out!

I think you misunderstood my post. Rich c was saying that Internet ebikes have issues, and I’m saying that all ebikes have issues.
 

tinasdude

Active Member
Interesting response to my question on Sondors Ebike FB group. Hi Stephen, we hear you. The LX and Cruiser are using a 7-speed cassette, not a freewheel. The cassette freehub body will accept 7, 8, and 9 speed cassettes with Shimano splines, as well as some 10 speed systems. We are constantly testing the ebikes, and may make additional gearing changes as we did on the Rockstar
 

Chomp

New Member
I am considering ordering the LX. If I order now it will not be delivered until February. I believe the first batch of the Elite Class bikes are shipping this month. I can't wait to hear peoples impressions of the 3 mid-drive bikes, especially the LX.
 

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Taylor57

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I am considering ordering the LX. If I order now it will not be delivered until February. I believe the first batch of the Elite Class bikes are shipping this month. I can't wait to hear peoples impressions of the 3 mid-drive bikes, especially the LX.

Do you know the difference in weight between the Rockstar and the LX? They both look great and I cant wait to hear feedback...
 

Chomp

New Member
I like the LX for 3 main reasons.


1 – M620 mid-drive and HUGE 21AH battery capacity (all the Elite Class have the same motor/battery)


2 – I will be moving to my place at the beach in the next couple years and I want the FAT tires for riding on the sand. I plan to do some trail riding too, but it won't be balls out enough riding to warrant the Rockstar.


3 – The LX is $600 less than the Rockstar.
 

Ebiker33

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I like the LX for 3 main reasons.


1 – M620 mid-drive and HUGE 21AH battery capacity (all the Elite Class have the same motor/battery)


2 – I will be moving to my place at the beach in the next couple years and I want the FAT tires for riding on the sand. I plan to do some trail riding too, but it won't be balls out enough riding to warrant the Rockstar.


3 – The LX is $600 less than the Rockstar.

Yeah for 2K you can't go wrong for that Ebike.