Specialized Turbo Vado/Como User Club

Marcela · Feb 4, 2021

I was hoping the brose motor was something a guy could fix. Doesn’t look like it. Wonder if the bosch motor is just as inhospitable to repair.

Stefan Mikes · Feb 4, 2021

Marcela said:
I was hoping the brose motor was something a guy could fix. Doesn’t look like it. Wonder if the bosch motor is just as inhospitable to repair.

I think all mid-drive motors from five major manufacturers are not repairable.

McCorby · Feb 4, 2021

Stefan Mikes said:
I think all mid-drive motors from five major manufacturers are not repairable.

Not completely true. It’s not super easy, but it can be done.

Shimano thread on emtb:

STEPS E8000 Motor Service - EMTB Forums

I've just serviced my E8000 motor and replaced some bearings, it's now working quietly and smoothly like new. If anyone needs any advice, I've got the bearing numbers and some pictures to help see what goes where. Gimme a shout if you are stuck.

www.emtbforums.com

Marcela · Feb 5, 2021

Wonder how much parts would be for the brose and how much labor charge is for a rebuild.

Billperry · Feb 7, 2021

Kam1936 said:
Turbo Levo Tuning

I've just purchased a Turbo Levo FSR and am wondering whats involved in installing a tuning device such as the Sx2 Dongle or PearTune MSO. Does anyone know: What steps are involved to get access to the motor to attach the cables for these devices? I've asked the electricbiketuning guys but...

electricbikereview.com

Talks about another process here and a few other places in the forum. Perimeters for wheel circumference allowed by Specialized for the LEvo were 2000-2400. 13% + more speed before the motor stops assisting with 2300 mm wheels set at 2000 mm.

Anyone know the perimeters for Turbo Como wheel circumference?

Art Deco · Feb 7, 2021

Marcela said:
Wonder how much parts would be for the brose and how much labor charge is for a rebuild.

Marcela said:
I can't find a link but somewhere on EBR I saw a figure of about $250 for a rebuild, seemed too cheap for Specialized, but it took a very long time to turn around IIRC. Maybe someone else can speak up...

Marcela · Feb 7, 2021

Marcela said:
I was out tooling around on the Como and decided to check my odo calibration number again, under power and without assist to see if there was a difference.

At the odo indicated .5, it was short of the 1/2 mile mark which I expected, both under power and unassisted. At the mile mark, both under assist and unassisted, the odo indicated exactly 1 mile as I crossed the marker which surprised me as yesterday I thought it was still incorrect. It may have something to do with faster speeds and the computer not being able to keep up with the wheel magnet as yesterday I rode the distance faster.

So for the Como 5.0 drivers, if you set your wheel circumference to 2103, you will be pretty much exact on the odo and mph indications. If your Como uses different tires or equipment it may vary, but shouldn't be much.

If you are a Vado driver, I have an inkling your number is going to be 84" or something real close but I still have to verify that someday as I'm curious what this will rout out.

Billperry said:
Anyone know the perimeters for Turbo Como wheel circumference?

2103 is close as I could come on como 5 using distance of a mile.

Billperry · Feb 8, 2021

Billperry said:
Anyone know the perimeters for Turbo Como wheel circumference?

To clarify: What is the largest and the smallest circumference wheel that can be entered into the Como's computers, (presumably by a dealer)?

Marcela · Feb 8, 2021

Think largest is 2400.

Stefan Mikes · Feb 9, 2021

I've just read an owner of a Bosch mid-drive motor e-bike with the Nyon display has to pay to unlock "custom assist modes".
Has anyone of you -- owners of Specialized Turbo e-bikes -- been aware how lucky we've been? (Don't tell Specialized; they might get as greedy as Bosch)

Kam1936 · Feb 13, 2021

Latest firmware for motor/display (7.4 1/16.4) Turbo Vado 5.0 are working great now. Be advised when you update you might have to reset all your presets in MC (uninstall/reinstall) that's what I had to do. I did the troubleshooting myself and figured it out. No thanks to the techs who were unable to figure it out. Including Specialized.

Brendon@TBSM · Feb 13, 2021

Stefan Mikes said:
I've just read an owner of a Bosch mid-drive motor e-bike with the Nyon display has to pay to unlock "custom assist modes".
Has anyone of you -- owners of Specialized Turbo e-bikes -- been aware how lucky we've been? (Don't tell Specialized; they might get as greedy as Bosch)

Stefan Mikes said:
If Anyone Considered What The Maximum Vado Tyre Size Was...

...it is 28x2.0" (50-622 or 51-622). I was very afraid Schwalbe Marathon Winter Plus studded tyres wouldn't fit my Vado. Oh, these fit perfectly. Even leave more clearance to the fender than Electrak 2.0 Armadillo

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I had the first ride on snow and ice this morning. The tyre pressure was 3 bar (58 psi), and that was 60% of the maximum allowance for these tyres. While my Electraks produced a zig-zag on the first ride attempt, Marathons Winter held perfectly, was it deep snow or icy asphalt. The ambient temperature was "-0.1 C" or "black-ice conditions". I'm so happy with the purchase, even if the price of studded tyres is twice of the regular ones. Low inflation pressure (which is still by half bar higher than the minimum) ensured very smooth ride. Funny thing: These tyres are not noisy at all!

Note: Vado 6.0 (with suspension fork) accepts the same tyre size, so it would be good for any "full" Vado.

Just for you Stefan, we've got well over 12" here, finally got to try out winter mode! 27.5 wheels with Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro's 27.5x2.6, 18psi in the back, 15psi in the front. Too fun!!

Stefan Mikes · Feb 13, 2021

Brendon@TBSM said:
27.5x2.6

How did you fit 2.6" tyres there?! I mean, their width?

Brendon@TBSM · Feb 13, 2021

Stefan Mikes said:
How did you fit 2.6" tyres there?! I mean, their width?

It's close but they clear, no issues riding to the shop!

Brendon@TBSM · Feb 13, 2021

Here's some pics, if you want some shots in particular happy to take more!

Stefan Mikes · Feb 13, 2021

Lucky me, Brendon. I own a Giant Trance E+ with the same size wheels and same winter tyres

Brendon@TBSM · Feb 13, 2021

Stefan Mikes said:
Lucky me, Brendon. I own a Giant Trance E+ with the same size wheels and same winter tyres

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They're the best tires!!! In a previous life when I was running a motorcycle dealership in Alaska I'd commute in the winter on my old XC race bike and ran 26x2.8 I believe, loved the grip on the ice!

Stefan Mikes · Feb 13, 2021

It is quite interesting these tyres behave flawlessly on ice but can slip on fresh or loose snow... No grip at all!

Brendon@TBSM · Feb 14, 2021

Stefan Mikes said:
It is quite interesting these tyres behave flawlessly on ice but can slip on fresh or loose snow... No grip at all!

I think that's more attributed to tire width rather than tread pattern. Wider tires displace more weight and aren't as likely to be pushed around in snowy ruts. I think from a commuting perspective the 27.5x2.6 Ice Spiker Pro is the best of all worlds. If you want to trail ride a wider, fat bike makes a huge difference.

GuruUno · Feb 17, 2021

Brendon@TBSM said:
Here's some pics, if you want some shots in particular happy to take more!

Maybe this is the next step??

Guy replaces bike wheels with saw blades so he can ride across the ice | Boing Boing

Um… OK. Just don’t pedal in a circle too many times.[Via Laughing Squid]Image: YouTube

boingboing.net

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