Specialized Turbo Vado/Como User Club

GuruUno

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One of the derailleur pulleys in my Vado has worn out. As it is difficult for me to describe what the "wear" means in this case, I'll try to show a photo of the bad pulley once I have replaced it.
SLX METREA....is this not wrong? My Vado 5.0 has a Rear Derailleur which is a Shimano XT, Shadow Plus, GS cage, 11-speed which uses Shimano Pulley Set for RD-8000 (Model # Y5RT98120).


 

Stefan Mikes

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Brwinów (PL)
SLX METREA....is this not wrong? My Vado 5.0 has a Rear Derailleur which is a Shimano XT, Shadow Plus, GS cage, 11-speed which uses Shimano Pulley Set for RD-8000 (Model # Y5RT98120).


You are right. The SLX pulleys would fit although the ones you mentioned are better. Luckily, there was no need for swapping the pulleys.
 

RGVCycling

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Any anyone know what these items are? They came with my Como.
 

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Ebiker53

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Any anyone know what these items are? They came with my Como.
They are extra shims that are attached to the battery during assembly of the bike. If you examine your battery you should see one screwed to the bottom. I don't think you would ever need the extras. I've owned 4 Como's and they all came with a bag of extra small parts and instruction sheets for some of the components.
 

RGVCycling

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They are extra shims that are attached to the battery during assembly of the bike. If you examine your battery you should see one screwed to the bottom. I don't think you would ever need the extras. I've owned 4 Como's and they all came with a bag of extra small parts and instruction sheets for some of the components.
Cool thanks for the info.
 

robbin

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I'm looking to replace the battery lock on my Turbo Vado 3.0, 2020. My locksmith believe that this is the right cylinder, but confessed that he wasn't a 100 percent sure.

Anyone here who can confirm? I don't have the key so I cannot double check myself.
 

Stefan Mikes

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Brwinów (PL)
We normally talk with a Specialized Local Bike Store to get replacement. Also, Vado keys come with a Plus Code Card, so Abus can make replacement keys based on that card. As I understand, your Vado is second-hand and you neither have the keys nor the Plus Code Card? In such case I cannot help you with any advice.
 

robbin

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We normally talk with a Specialized Local Bike Store to get replacement. Also, Vado keys come with a Plus Code Card, so Abus can make replacement keys based on that card. As I understand, your Vado is second-hand and you neither have the keys nor the Plus Code Card? In such case I cannot help you with any advice.
Yes, that's correct, I only got the bike and the charger I'm afraid. However, the picture shows how the lock is marked with Mobile 17.002 is this something you recognize?
 

Stefan Mikes

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Yes, that's correct, I only got the bike and the charger I'm afraid. However, the picture shows how the lock is marked with Mobile 17.002 is this something you recognize?
As I said, it is hard to give any advice, as we cannot see our locks exposed when we, say, swap the battery.
P.S. The person who sold you the bike should burn in Hell...
 

robbin

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As I said, it is hard to give any advice, as we cannot see our locks exposed when we, say, swap the battery.
P.S. The person who sold you the bike should burn in Hell...
Aaah, I see. But then I'll ask the locksmith to take it in, he'll also be the one that helps me remove the old lock. Thanks!

Although I cannot speak to the the goodness of the clerk (he could be evil), it was from a store that sells insurance claimed bicycles recovered by the police, and was sold "as is", at a great price. But it has left me extra security aware!
 

Stefan Mikes

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Aaah, I see. But then I'll ask the locksmith to take it in, he'll also be the one that helps me remove the old lock. Thanks!

Although I cannot speak to the the goodness of the clerk (he could be evil), it was from a store that sells insurance claimed bicycles recovered by the police, and was sold "as is", at a great price. But it has left me extra security aware!
Now I can see... You need to go to your locksmith, then!
Where in Europe are you from?
 

Kam1936

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Aaah, I see. But then I'll ask the locksmith to take it in, he'll also be the one that helps me remove the old lock. Thanks!

Although I cannot speak to the the goodness of the clerk (he could be evil), it was from a store that sells insurance claimed bicycles recovered by the police, and was sold "as is", at a great price. But it has left me extra security aware!
Bro. Welcome to the Vado Fam!! Glad u got a great deal. Invest in security for your bike and you're Golden.
 

kahn

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northWET washington
As a relatively new member of the Specialized Bike group, I'm not exactly clear on the differences or similarities of their wide range of e-bike offerings.

I'm not a member of the Vado/Como set. I opted for an Aluminum Creo. But I'm still trying to figure out what's what. So be easy on me. I come from mostly a road bike history and have not used the mt bike in quite a while and have not done anything really gnarly since Moab many years ago.

Is the Vado pretty much a similar (same) geometry as the Creo but aimed at those wanting a more upright position or are there other things or am I completely offbase. I also realize that there are more powerful motor options in both the Vado and Como families. There have been hills where I've wanted a bit more oomph and maybe I should consider one of these other options.

Thanks for any info.
 

Stefan Mikes

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Road cycling world is a very specific thing to me; as far from my thinking as Vado is for you. It is hard to assign a simple bike category to Vado. "Hybrid" (between road bike and MTB), "Active Lifestyle", or "General Purpose" bike descriptions might come helpful. Vado belongs to the same category as its direct competitor, Trek Allant+. These e-bikes have been conceived from the very start as the pure form of an integrated battery/mid-motor e-bike, not really reflecting existing categories such as road bike or MTB.

Let us look to Vado SL first. The lightweight cousin of both Vado and Creo is in fact a "fitness e-bike" that may be ridden unequipped and has no suspension (if we do not count the Future Shock stem on the 5.0). Yes, Vado SL can be ridden for long distances on the same internal battery and range extender as in Creo. Provided you are a fit person, it gives you similar performance as the Creo does.

Full power Vado is a different animal. It is beefier, equipped with a strong motor (Vado 5.0 is equipped with a MTB motor, Vado 4.0 has a pretty strong motor, too, and 3.0's motor is still far more powerful than the SL 1.1). More powerful motor means more battery charge is needed. All Vado/Como e-bikes share the same format of removable battery (460, 500 or 600 Wh, depending on the model); the replacement or spare battery is always 600 Wh and can be used on any Vado or Como. What is different to Creo is the wired TCD-W display giving you five pages of configurable ride data (including cadence, rider's power, calories burnt, etc); and a handlebar remote.

Mid-drive motors of Vado/Como are from Brose, modified, equipped with electronics, firmware and software, and branded by Specialized. You own a Creo with Specialized branded Mahle motor, and the electronics and software are similar for Vado/Como so it is something you are familiar with already. Special thing about Specialized/Brose motors is these are virtually silent (no whirr you experience on Creo whatsoever!), and these are the only silent mid-drive motors present in the market. Performance ranging from 90 Nm torque/550 W peak power/380% assistance (5.0) through 72 Nm/520 W/320% (4.0) to 50 Nm/280% one found on 3.0 (not sure about the peak power of that 1.2E motor).

I'm not an expert on bike geometry. Unmodified Vado requires a sporty, forward riding position; for that reason many of us have raised their handlebars with a stem riser for increased ride comfort.

Vado feels to me like e-bike Ferrari. Don't expect to ride it unassisted (it is a heavy e-bike, some 53 lb) but once powered, it is very nimble and can accelerate like a rocket as long as you put a little more energy in pedalling and use the derailleur in wide range from cold start to high speed. I often enjoy that game: while I'm riding my Vado slowly, I'm overtaken by a fast traditional roadie. Almost automatically, I switch the assistance to Turbo and start pedalling vigorously at high cadence, gradually shifting up. I could overtake the roadie just for fun but I only follow him instead. Typically, the guy cracks at the first ascent encountered :)

Many Vado owners claim the e-bike gives them too much of assistance, so many of us play with Mission Control or BLEvo app to dramatically reduce the assistance and save on battery for long rides. (If you rode Vado 5.0, you would need to halve the assistance to get to the Creo level).

Purpose. Anything from grocery shopping through leisure riding through touring to riding mild off-road such as forest fire-roads or even easy trails. Standard issue Vado is a road machine: replacing the stock tyres with, say, Schwalbe Smart Sam enables Vado to ride on-road and off-road. It is important to say Vado (especially 4.0 and 5.0) has inherited many MTB components, such as thru-axles, powerful brakes or drive-train.

Now I have talked a lot. Is it possible for you to organize a Vado demo ride in your area?

Me on a touring trip.
 
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kahn

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Now I have talked a lot. Is it possible for you to organize a Vado demo ride in your area?

Me on a touring trip.
Thanks for all that info and background. Amazing that they still offer the Vado 3/4/5 at the same time.

And I checked the local shop the other day and all the Vado's are backordered. I don't know if they have any demo models for test riding. When I tested the Creo, it was a for-sale bike and after two test rides, I purchased it. I tested on some steep hills near the shop and home and I knew it was not a super powerful motor but I figured I could work with it. And I have. But for longer, hilly rides, I do need the Range Extender (which fortunately I found about 40 miles away).

It is probably a good thing I got the Creo when I did. Those, too, are backordered. Stock DEPLETED!