I'm not sure what you're talking about. Is that in Euros? A Polish currency? Are those prices for the Vado SL 4.0 vs Vado SL 5.0? That's not the US price, which is less than 1/3 of those numbers. I bought the Vado SL 5.0 because I wanted the features, I can afford it, and I think it's a good value. We are free to disagree here. Buy whatever suits you. I'm not being snarky. Everyone needs to make their own decisions. I respect whatever decision you made for yourself.Rincon, please listen to me.
There are two figures:
Shouldn’t be an issue since the 12v supply is external but more of how to execute cleanly. I would simply consider mounting a microswitch on top of the existing light by drilling a hole and attaching the positive lead across an SPST toggle. of course you might lose watertight integrity. But if you look you can also find pushbutton quick switches, or boots to cover the toggle.I'm not going to have to worry about this for a while, and it probably doesn't apply to places with stricter regulations (e.g. Europe), but has anyone looked into the possibility of installing an inline switch of some sort to be able to turn the headlight off and on? The taillight isn't a concern and besides when I replace the seat post it will have to go (I have other taillight options). But I really want to turn off the headlight when I'm just riding on trails and pathways, which is 90% of my riding around here.
(Please don't reply telling me why I shouldn't do this, safety, visibility, yada, yada, yada. Just assume that, at 75 and 70 years experience, I know what I'm doing. )
I've been riding on carbon forks on various bikes for many years and in some very rough, bumpy conditions. Unless you're doing full-on downhill MTB runs I wouldn't be concerned. The advantages include some weight savings and the ability to soak up small bumps and vibrations. Bikes with stiff aluminum frames and forks can transmit vibrations through the bars that make your fingers go numb on certain road types (such as the "chip seal" roads that are common in rural America). Carbon forks made a world of difference to me.To be very honest, the thing that discouraged me the most with the 5.0 was the carbon fork. I don't need it, and in case I rode into the forest and the CF fork broke, Specialized would certainly say: "We clearly define VSL 5.0 is to be ridden on roads only, and we cannot honour your warranty in case of crash"
Super, super helpful. Where did you find the child seat addendum documentation? Can you please link or post it? 25 kg would be great.Hi, The MSRP I paid through Specialized was actually a bit cheaper than an LBS authorized dealer because Specialized picked up the tab for road sticker registration.
HUGE difference between 5.0 and 4.0!
FutureShock + Carbon Fork
12 speed vs 10 speed
Deore XT vs Deore Shifter and Derailleur
Higher grade cassette
Carbon seatpost (EQ only)
Higher spec Tektro brakes
Higher spec headlight
Higher spec saddle
5 cassette is 10-45t vs 4 cassette at 11-42t. 5 is faster by a bit and a bit more torque on a given grade at a given cadence. Doesn’t seem like a huge difference until you’re passing up a rider on a 4
In my opinion it’s an entirely different bike and great value. You can compare side by side on the website:
There is a detailed document describing max loads on the bike, also one specific to child carriers. I will look today. Note the carrier is a bit special because it’s integrated with the fenders on the EQ version. I’m not sure you’d need to change the rack though - it’s racktime compatible btw. Also rear wheel cargo limit is 55lbs/25kg.
Update: @aj1 - OK I had a look at the child seat addendum. Basically it’s a few warnings and disclaimers saying legally the bike was designed for one person and you assume all the risk. Also apparently the carrier/rear rack can carry 25 kg max rated. So really it’s just a matter of how you would go about mounting the child carrier.
Interesting and quite a bit different from the SL (removable motor??). Also it's from Canyon, not Cannondale and not likely for the US market with that 25mph limit.Did anyone consider the Cannondale Roadlite:ON? Seems like a light bike, too. I didn’t realize it existed until now. Removable battery. I’d appreciate everyone’s thoughts and comparison to the Vado SL https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/electric-bikes/electric-hybrid-bike/roadlite-on/
Ah yeah, good point! Didn’t catch that. Thanks. Still interesting to see another similar bike. Hoping more bikes trend to lighter ones and less heavy, fast ones. I had a heavier ebike and it was great but I really like the idea of a bike that’s electric rather than an electric bike.
Maybe not. Here's a link to a Trek e-bike with the same Fazua system that clearly states that the motor is removable as well as the battery. I think they meant that you can remove just the battery, or optionally the motor as well. And some think the SL is expensive?Hmm. I have a feeling the ad copy might be wrong:
FYIMaybe not. Here's a link to a Trek e-bike with the same Fazua system that clearly states that the motor is removable as well as the battery. I think they meant that you can remove just the battery, or optionally the motor as well. And some think the SL is expensive?
- "The drive system, including the motor, is easily removable. Just take it out, pop on the included cover, and you’ll have a standard mountain bike that weighs 2.9kg less than before"
Don't see myself going back from FS.Riding rough is the domain of youth. Nowadays, youngsters prefer gravel bikes to full suspension MTBs because (as they say) "riding the full is boring; riding rough means fun". Young body is supple and can stand a lot to experience more fun. None of us will get any younger though.
For me, it was not OK to ride on even slightly cracked asphalt and having had my head shaken. Or, riding over a short curb or a speed-bump and yell from pain in my lower back. I think I can deserve some comfort in my age.
Zooming on "fully suspended" Vado SL means a lot of pleasure. You're riding on rough asphalt, you don't suffer but rather enjoy how the suspension works for you. Riding at full speed onto the speed bump faster than any car could -- painlessly -- is true fun for me.
A riding buddy of mine is a dedicated gravel cyclist. Recently, he asked me of my honest opinion on Redshift ShockStop stem. He's not getting any younger either although he's only in his late forties.
yup, canyon not cannondale. darn auto correct . Anyhow, not available in USA. Oh well. Looks interesting.