The new turbo Vado 2017

Drew224

New Member
You didn’t tell me about them, I knew about them well before you started posting that the sky is falling. I probably have phone and email records post dating that.

I Picked up my Turbos (S & base) and have been riding them for the past 4 weeks instead of posting about doom and gloom, life's too short, go out and enjoy it while you can instead of posting on the internet. Im sure you will be unhappy with the problems associated with all the other bike makers out there for one reason or another.

I spoke too the tech...told you what days he was working....no word from any of you until I did. This isn't a pissing contest...you guys bought the bike I didn't...end of story!!!
 

ronin2000

Member
Ok...I'm just about done with this. If your not gonna look back at what Doug and I have come up with in this forum...then believe what you want.

To debunk what you think as these as just laptop batteries...you will be very surprised that there not. Specialized is the license holder on these batteries. They stop supporting them...there will be no firmware to program them. The battery is the brain of the bike. I'm glad I'm the only one paying attention here....because I just save $6k.
These are not like other electric bikes. The brains are in the controllers of other bikes. Like I said before...I was going too buy this bike....and glad I didn't. For some of you...I'm sorry...but batteries on backorder should scare the crap outta you.

I'm done...good luck guys!!!!


All bike batteries use one form of lithium chemistry or another... Its not rocket science. IF in the event the battery dies and or the motor dies, its less than 1000 bucks to get a Bafang mid/rear unit + Panasonic/samsung cells repacked into the battery. If I cannot reuse the controller ill buy a new speed and torque sensor for maybe 300 bucks. 1300 bucks later and I still have the same bike chassis just with a lot more power... The bikes not going to be a paper weight...
 

jwb

Member
Ok...I'm just about done with this. If your not gonna look back at what Doug and I have come up with in this forum...then believe what you want.

To debunk what you think as these as just laptop batteries...you will be very surprised that there not. Specialized is the license holder on these batteries. They stop supporting them...there will be no firmware to program them. The battery is the brain of the bike. I'm glad I'm the only one paying attention here....because I just save $6k.
These are not like other electric bikes. The brains are in the controllers of other bikes. Like I said before...I was going too buy this bike....and glad I didn't. For some of you...I'm sorry...but batteries on backorder should scare the crap outta you.

I'm done...good luck guys!!!!

I feel bad for people who don't know how to repair things.
 

Douglas Ruby

Well-Known Member
Ya know, I have enjoyed my Turbo and do not regret purchasing it. While it is true that I wrote a detailed letter to Specialized outlining a support program Id like to see, I, like many, am not too concerned. Yes, I would like to see a product life cycle management approach that emphasized customer satisfaction a bit more, but I am willing to take 2021 at face value.

I already know that certain aspects of the Turbo design make supporting and evolving it difficult. The battery architecture is part of that. As long as I have some reasonable expectation of support, I expect to continue to enjoy my bike.

It is quite clear that the investment and development of ebikes is going into mid drive and digital integration. Assuming that the Vado performs well and is not afflicted with firmware or mechanical bugs, I will certainly consider one as a replacement sometime in the next 2-3 years. I like many aspects of the design particularly the ability to leverage the advances in standard wheel and mechanical developments. I also like the aesthetic of the frame and think it does a decent job of leveraging the look of the turbo while hiding and protecting the mid drive.

If my Turbo dies an untimely death and Specialized is unwilling to provide replacement batteries, motors, or handlebar controllers then I will not replace it with a Specialized bike.

Lets move on.
 
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Saratoga Dave

Well-Known Member
As usual Mr. Ruby, you present a reasonable, rational and cool headed view. Do you ever get out west to the Ashuwillticook trail? It might be nice to have a frosty beverage at CJ's some fine Spring afternoon following a round trip on that nice piece of pavement.
 

Douglas Ruby

Well-Known Member
As usual Mr. Ruby, you present a reasonable, rational and cool headed view. Do you ever get out west to the Ashuwillticook trail? It might be nice to have a frosty beverage at CJ's some fine Spring afternoon following a round trip on that nice piece of pavement.
Love to share a frosty. I get out to central Ca. every once in awhile. Where r u?
 

Saratoga Dave

Well-Known Member
Waterford, NY, between Albany and Saratoga Springs. Tons of great bike paths around here with the Mohawk River/Erie Canal stuff, but I do enjoy that trail in Adams, Mass... a fairly quick hop across the state line.
 

bazzapage

Active Member
The reality of current ebikes is that you buy them expecting a 3-5 year service life - maybe less if you thrash the heck out of them. If you don't like the idea of that then buy a cheap Chinese import for a few bucks and hope that it lasts 2 years.
 

Bengt A

Member
My thoughts so far about the bike, the display is of the simpler model, a bike that is so expensive should have a better display. The cycling gets a little rough about 25 km / h. The bike is very nice to drive, please let me know if you have any questions
 

jwb

Member
@jwb, you must work at a pretty cool place that they have so many electric bikes; Turbos no less! Lucky you :)

It is a good perk, but unfortunately it is a consequence of our ludicrously sprawled-out Silicon Valley corporate campus that necessitates 10-mile bike rides to attend meetings.
 

Scott Adams

Active Member
Those interested in the inner workings of the new Vados will find a well executed exploded diagram of the bike at this page on the Specialized New Zealand website. Scroll down a bit to find it. Likely found elsewhere as well, but new to me.

(Link Removed - No Longer Exists)
 

Roadrash3

New Member
Thanks for posting that Scott. So I am excited for this new model. I owned a Turbo S a few years ago but sold it when I needed the cash. I regretted it and found myself wanting to mostly commute by bicycle again, I picked up the S at what I thought was a good deal. Well the bike had quite a few issues and the shop took it back. Specialized is all out of the Turbo in my size and its gone. I really preferred the look of the S turbo the best and not a huge fan of the Vado look, but I could not find a rack for the turbo as it is also discontinued. So the ability of parts for the new bike, the new display, the new rack, the easy maintenance of the mid drive, I have high hopes, looking forward to Curt's review this month.
 

ronin2000

Member
Thanks for posting that Scott. So I am excited for this new model. I owned a Turbo S a few years ago but sold it when I needed the cash. I regretted it and found myself wanting to mostly commute by bicycle again, I picked up the S at what I thought was a good deal. Well the bike had quite a few issues and the shop took it back. Specialized is all out of the Turbo in my size and its gone. I really preferred the look of the S turbo the best and not a huge fan of the Vado look, but I could not find a rack for the turbo as it is also discontinued. So the ability of parts for the new bike, the new display, the new rack, the easy maintenance of the mid drive, I have high hopes, looking forward to Curt's review this month.


Couldn't find a specialized rack so I went with a bontrager Disc brake model. Worked out ok. Kinda odd having trek parts on a specialized though
 

jwb

Member
Ha. Of course in California it would be unlawful to ride a type 3 e-bike on a class 1 bike path, like the one on the Golden Gate Bridge shown in the video.
 

Bengt A

Member
Ha. Of course in California it would be unlawful to ride a type 3 e-bike on a class 1 bike path, like the one on the Golden Gate Bridge shown in the video.

What about type 2 e-bike? My bike is an Turbo Vado 4.0 (sweden) class 2 in usa if i'm correct.