Sorry but your post has some of inaccuracies. The lower performance Bosch Cruise motor without shift detection is found on very few bikes, mostly rear hub geared crusier type bikes. There is a Performance CX mostly found on mountain bikes that limit out at either 15mph or 20mph depending on legal limits in a particular country. The Performance Speed limits out at 45kph or 28mph. In the EU 45 mph bikes are legal but must be insured and licensed as vehicles with lit license plates and brake lights. In most cases they can only be ridden on roads rather than bike paths.Hi tegnamo, thanks for your reply. I am well aware of the speed limit restriction in the EU so im hoping if anyone has had experience/proof if they've hacked this motor specifically (Bosch Performance Cruise) to bypass he speed limit of 15mph.
also here's the link - https://www.blazingbikes.co.uk/index.php/bikes/ebike-bikes/trek-domane-2019.html
scroll down and the see the specs. If what you say is correct then maybe its a typo on the website.
Oh a lot of fazua payed reviewers...hmmm instersting.Well, I guess it is incredibly "under powered" if the rider is obese and looking for a motorcycle instead of a bike. Let's see, something that weighs at least 55 pounds or more and goes a minimum of 45 miles an hour. Yup, that would be the perfect "bicycle".
No, you can’t go too far on that system. And like i said is underpowered. It probably does 15-20miles long rides in ideal conditions.Okay, so it seems you really just hate the concept of a lower-powered system. I think that's the root of your anger and not the made-in-China stuff.
Don't worry, Trek will have both Fazua and Bosch so everyone can be happy (or would you prefer we are all super angry?).
There’s no 80nm or even 40nm case of this system. Is all misleading info about tq levels.Ebiker101 I think your missing the point of a ebike, the fazua & the ebikemotion motors are designed for fitter cyclist who need just a little help.
Hence why those bikes are so light, compared to a mid drive system.
Not all people need up to 80nm torque & 500 wh battery,I know people on a Orbea who get up to 100miles on one charge with a 250wh battery.
i can get close to 100 on my domane + & that’s more than I need so the bike suits me.
i know over in the old US that everything has to be big, but it’s not for everyone.
Can’t find the 2020 trek with Bosch only a fazua motor & comes with Ultegra .The new 2020 one will have the Lighter Bosch (2lb lighter), and a 625wh battery. Is avlb. To place order in December.
Trek has 2stores in Nyc and that’s where the info is from.
I’m glad i didn’t fall for the early experimental model. Now it will probably be sold 2-2.5k max. As an used ebike or maybe 3k new in a few months.
Nobody will buy it since it’s technology will be so obsolete !! Only the lightest and the best.
So next year top road ebikes are :
1) Specialized Creo - apparently it is sold out or the 16.000$ model of 250units is sold out. Not sure.
28lb Sexy beast.
9k for Aluminum version.
2) Trek Domane -625wh, Bosch 2020motor.
Weight ?? Not sure.
6-7k for the CARbon version
3) BULLS Falcon -500wh, Bosch 2020motor. Alu frame , but a VERY sexy red beast.
I personally like the Bulls for it’s sturdiness, 28mph speed. And Brilliant color scheme. And price 5-6k.
All other eroad bikes will have the cheaply made incredibly Underpowered Chinese Fazua system.
I believe even the lowest tier of these batteries can be safely charged at 1C and at 0.5C they should have good cycle life.There’s no 80nm or even 40nm case of this system. Is all misleading info about tq levels.
Anyway the markets and customers will choose and reflect the needs.
You already choosed the Domane+ , i am about to make the same smart decision like yourself with the 2020model.
Oh and one other thing- the 250watts batery can only be charged at max. 2 maybe 3amps b/c of the low amps(8.6amps).
The 500watt can take 6amps maybe 6.2. Sometimes we need a fast charge on the road.
I use a Grin charger and it does half of the battery amperage. On my 48/12.6 it regularly charges at 6.2ah .I believe even the lowest tier of these batteries can be safely charged at 1C and at 0.5C they should have good cycle life.
However 250wh will probably limit your range depending on the assist level.
That’s for the Limited 18mph speed European market !Can’t find the 2020 trek with Bosch only a fazua motor & comes with Ultegra .
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