Warthog HD/MD Thread

RMK!

Active Member
Well, I would like to kick off the Bolton Ebikes Thread here on the EBR Forum. Like many, I have been watching the Kyle Chittock YouTube videos on all things ebikes and have learned a lot there. It has also given me the knowledge and tools (literally) to do simple maintenance on my families rapidly expanding ebike collection.

The most recent ebike purchase was this morning. I ordered the Warthog HD750 with dual batteries. I had the opportunity to ride both the HD750 and the MD1000 at the Bolton facility in Grass Valley and came away from that demo ride committed to ordering a Warthog. After posting a short ride review in the Bikonit Thread in this Forum, I received feedback that these bikes could be purchased for a much lower cost direct from China. It seemed like a to good to be true situation but the only risk seemed to be after sale support so i placed an order for an MD1000 on Alibaba in mid May. The savings after shipping and tax were still considerable so I felt relatively, comfortable with my decision.

After 2 months, and 2 missed shipping commitment dates I cancelled the MD1000 order and fortunately, I received a refund of my prepayment from Alibaba. After a couple of demo ebike rides I then decided to go in a completely different direction and ordered a Specialized Turbo Creo e-road bike as my daily rider. All ebikes present a level of compromise and I thought the Creo would provide the most utility for my regular use case (paved trail riding). But for off road use and overall comfort, the Creo was not exactly what I wanted.

I then decided to indulge myself and get 2 ebikes that would meet all my use requirements. I started test riding mountain ebikes but nothing I rode was as comfortable or powerful as the Warthog ebikes. With a clearer view of what I wanted and with August delivery assured by Bolton, I made the decision to get the less expensive but still very capable Warthog HD750 with an extra battery for range. I love the Warthogs best in the industry stealth dual battery design and hope to get 60-80 mile range with my riding style (99% pedalling). Another large factor is supporting a local bike store (LBS) that has helped me with demo rides and will provide after sale support. That support is worth a lot considering the new technology in these ebikes and was a consideration in the Specialized purchase.

Being as I am riding +/- 100 miles per week, and this riding is keeping me healthy and happy, the cost considerations became less important (what's a nice jetski cost these days?). I'm on a path to a perfect complement of Ebikes and with the wife now riding an ebike, its a healthy activity we can share. I also ordered a bike rack for our SUV so we can take them on the road. We have a trip to the coast for a much needed week of C-19 avoiding vacation (she works in medicine). That will be our first trip that features ebikes as a focused activity of the trip.

Sorry for the long ramble but I hope some will find information that may be helpful in your own ebike quest.
 
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RMK!

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Well August delivery is not happening. New stated date is early to mid September. Roll eyes ....
 

reed scott

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Hope everything works out. Studying Kyles history (admittedly from quite a distance) he's gotten a lot of people a lot of ebikes in the past few years. I'm in the same boat you're in hoping for my delivery sometime in September. Kyle announced the 'Raptor' a rebadged Frey bike 5 months ago. You have to suspect he does his buying on Alibaba. I don't think he goes to China to make deals. %^)

This covid virus has royally screwed everything up. For all we know the factories making these things could have lost many employees. Lockdowns still going on over there. I would be especially worried about the frame welders. Not a skill easily come by. Personally I'm hoping Kyle well get it done. I know I payed a premium for Kyle's middle man services but the bikes are still reasonably priced. Doing business with China will be beyond tough for a long time to come.
 

RMK!

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I don't know if Kyle has been to China but it is really immaterial. He is doing sufficient volume to get product and all you have to do is go into any B&M bike shop to see that production for the big bike companies has slowed immeasurably since C-19. I feel lucky to have been able to get 4 of the 6 ebikes I have ordered with the other 2 scheduled next month.

I think the ebike craze is justified and I hope that consumers behave responsibly and not screw it up for those of us who ride existing bike trails showing respect to the acoustic bike community. Fortunately, non-throttle ebikes like my Specialized Turbo Creo are very stealth and have garnered rave reviews from all levels of cyclists. The Specialized racing team uses Turbo Creos for their off day training rides. That sends a huge pay attention signal to the bike community in general.
 

RMK!

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I am going to wrap up my comments here as due to more missed delivery dates, I reverted back to a factory MD 1000 which will be arriving soon. The delays were not anyone's fault and were due to the serious supply chain issues caused by the C-19 epidemic.

I hope you all get your bikes soon and enjoy them. I would like to hear from MD 1000 Warthog owners about your impressions and so will be checking in occasionally. I am a fan of Bolton and love the videos and podcasts. Keep up the good work Kyle!