What E-Bikes Have You Bought Which Have Exceeded Your Expectations?

TMH

Well-Known Member
I thought that this thread might be fun, and would probably be helpful to those who might be looking at getting their first e-bike.

We all do plenty of research before buying, which is so well supported by the reviews on this site and the posts in these forums. Some are lucky enough to have local shops where at least some riding tests can be had. I don't really have shops close by which can provide test rides so all of my purchases have been based on internet research, as well as a long history in bicycling and motorcycling.

My wife and I got our first e-bikes back in late 2010 (Pedego Comfort Cruisers). We were hooked on the e-bike concept immediately, and used them mostly when RV camping. But we hadn't used them much for the last couple of years so I sold them off in January of this year. And then I started looking at what was currently available in the e-bike market, and was pleasantly surprised at how things had improved since we first bought our bikes. I intended to get a couple of 'do-it-all' bikes to replace the Pedego cruisers. Then my plan went all awry as I was enjoying them so much that I wanted to get specialized bikes for specific purposes. I've spent a ton of money on our little 'fleet' recently, but we now have different bikes for different purposes, similar style bikes to ride together, and extra bikes to ride with friends and visiting family. Plus they have gotten us back out riding again, and there isn't really a price you can put on the improvements to our health.

With all of that said, there are at least 2 stand-out bikes which, although I knew that they should be good, have really far exceeded my expectations now that I have some miles on them. So without further ado:

1) Raleigh Tamland iE. I knew when purchasing this bike that it had been discontinued by Raleigh (I can't figure out why though), and it was a real chore to find one in the large size (I'm 6'4" tall). But I finally found one and scored it for an excellent close-out price. I knew based on the spec that it should be good, and that I wanted something with the efficiency of a road bike for longer rides. It was to be my first experience with a Brose drive system.

And boy do I love this bike! I made a couple of revisions to it which I knew I wanted to do up front (RedShift suspension stem and Thudbuster ST suspension seatpost), and it is an absolute joy to ride. I've never taken it above the middle 'Tour' power level, and with the winds we've been having lately it still rides into headwinds just beautifully. I really like everything about it - the quiet drive system, pedal assist provided up to 28 mph, how smooth it rides and how well the whole package works together. Probably my very favorite e-bike to date.

2) Grace MX II Trail. I also knew when purchasing this bike that Grace had pulled out of the U.S. market, and that there would be virtually no support for it (well, I hoped that there would still be support through Bosch if ultimately necessary). Once again, it should be an excellent performer based on its spec, and it was possible that it could work very well on light trails/fire roads as well as on the street.

And it has exceeded my expectations. It works incredibly well on the street, is extremely efficient and for some reason the motor provides assist in excess of 25 mph (was supposed to be only up to 20 mph) out of the box. The bike feels much lighter than its actual weight - maybe that's just due to fantastic balance. I haven't trail ridden it much yet, but with a bit less air in the tires it seems like trail use will be just fine. I'm stoked that I got this bike as it was available to me at a killer price and is just really well done.

So what bikes have you purchased that have really 'wowed' you after all of your research, or even your first test rides?
 

David Berry

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Which (ebikes) have exceeded your expectations?
None.

My expectations of an ebike bought new are that it fulfils the claims made by its manufacturer, that it is reliable and that it is supported by the brand's dealer network.

My Trek Powerfly 5 delivered on all three expectations. It has been an outstanding ebike which has done the Trek brand proud. It didn't need to exceed those expectations: achieving them was sufficient.
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Trek Powerfly 5 (MY 2018)
In my experience, an outstanding product; but that's exactly what I expected
!​
 
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rich c

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I didn't do any research before buying. I found a Sondors fat bike on Craigslist in May 2016, test rode it, and bought it. I thought it was amazing. Then I found Crazy Lennys website and drove to Madison to look at a emtb. They just kept rolling out bikes for me to ride. That's all the research I did there. They showed me a Class 3 Full Seven Haibike that was a demo model. I bought it right away, mainly for the price. It felt like a Formula 1 car compared to the Sondors. Went back 5 months latter and bought another Haibike, a Trekking model to compliment the other Haibike. Two Haibikes, two batteries, life was good. I'm a huge fan of the Class 3 Bosch system, it's just the type of ride I want. I'm 12 miles away from 10,000 eBike miles now, I'll hit that tomorrow.
 

CityExplorer

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DJ Bikes MTB. The biggest bang for the buck, I think i'm going to get in e-bikes for a while. It was my first e-bike and it is still exceeding my expectations. I really love this bike, value, simplicity, component choices.

My latest Juiced RCS (a good bike) has actually increased my love for the DJ Bikes MTB, it's a great first e-bike and more.
 

Timpo

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DJ Bikes MTB. The biggest bang for the buck, I think i'm going to get in e-bikes for a while. It was my first e-bike and it is still exceeding my expectations. I really love this bike, value, simplicity, component choices.

My latest Juiced RCS (a good bike) has actually increased my love for the DJ Bikes MTB, it's a great first e-bike and more.
This bike? 🤔

$1,449
750W motor, 20mph
Tektro Mechanical Disc brake
48V 13Ah battery

Although I wouldn't call it a rip off, I would not call it a best bang for buck either.
It's like, priced about right, based on specs.

Compare this to a Rad Rover, for a little bit more money, you get a little higher capacity battery (48V, 14Ah) with better looking (subjective) frame and better battery location (you have to take off seatpost to remove the battery on DJ bike).

 

LimboJim

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Thought-provoking topic! Most people can't or won't experience more than a few bikes, so comparing notes is a good thing IMO.

I personally purchased and rode quite a few ebikes since 2015. While the OP didn't ask for it, I'll not only share which bikes exceeded my expectations, but also those which either met them or disappointed me.

I will add one caveat: I have usually paid 30 to 60% below MSRP, with the exception of consumer-direct purchases. Had I paid full pop for the asterisked units below, they'd likely be disappointments.


Exceeded expectations (all mid-drives)

Commencal MetaPower w/Shimano
Haibikes with Bosch & Yamaha* (6 models)
Motobecane HAL eBoost Pro w/Shimano
Bulls Estream Evo FS3 with Brose
Raleighs with Bosch & Shimano* (2models)
BH EasyMotion Gravel X w/Yamaha*
Felt LEBOWSKe w/Bosch*
TerraTrike Rover kitted w/Bafang


Met expectations

Sondors Original w/Bafang hub
iZip Sumo w/TranzX mid*
BH EasyMotion Rebel Lites 27.5 & 29er (Yamaha)*


Disappointed

Polaris Terrain w/Evantage
ProdecoTech Phantom (unknown)
Biktrix Juggernaut w/Bafang mid
RadRover w/Bafang hub
BH EasyMotion EVO Snow w/dual Dapu hubs


So much for the old adage, "expectations only lead to disappointments..." 🧐
 
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Cyklefanatic

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Thought-provoking topic! Most people can't or won't experience more than a few bikes, so comparing notes is a good thing IMO.

I personally purchased and rode quite a few ebikes since 2015. While the OP didn't ask for it, I'll not only share which bikes exceeded my expectations, but also those which either met them or disappointed me.

I will add one caveat: I have usually paid 30 to 60% below MSRP, with the exception of consumer-direct purchases. Had I paid full pop for the asterisked units below, they'd likely be disappointments.


Exceeded expectations (all mid-drives)

Commencal MetaPower w/Shimano
Haibikes with Bosch & Yamaha* (6 models)
Motobecane HAL eBoost Pro w/Shimano
Bulls Estream Evo FS3 with Brose
Raleighs with Bosch & Shimano* (2models)
BH EasyMotion Gravel X w/Yamaha*
Felt LEBOWSKe w/Bosch*
TerraTrike Rover kitted w/Bafang


Met expectations

Sondors Original w/Bafang hub
iZip Sumo w/TranzX mid*
BH EasyMotion Rebel Lites 27.5 & 29er (Yamaha)*


Disappointed

Polaris Terrain w/Evantage
ProdecoTech Phantom (unknown)
Biktrix Juggernaut w/Bafang mid
RadRover w/Bafang hub
BH EasyMotion EVO Snow w/dual Dapu hubs


So much for the old adage, "expectations only lead to disappointments..." 🧐
How do you go through so many bikes? And how do you get all the discounts? 16 bikes in 5 years!
 

TMH

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...So much for the old adage, "expectations only lead to disappointments..." 🧐

And, I have found, that e-bikes can dispel another old adage - Money can indeed buy happiness. ;) And it is even better/makes me even happier when the money spent includes a 30-60% discount off MSRP! I'm such a sucker for half off.

I'm really glad to see the responses this thread is getting. I think that these can allow potential new e-bike buyers to understand that great bikes can be had for a reasonable cost. And that 'bang for the buck' is a truly subjective term. Sometimes a bike's parts spec may not seem to be the best, but the bike as a whole can work really well, exceeding the 'sum of its parts' in function and enjoyment.
 

Captain Slow

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Wow, LimboJim that is a lot of electric bikes!

For me I'll say

Exceeded expectations - Juiced CCS - Although not as good a bike as my Creo, it is great value so that lands it here.
Met expectations - Specialized Creo - A great bike, but pricey and it really needs a double chain ring and more choices in wheels
Did not meet expectations - Bionx kit fitted to a Haro hybrid - Really heavy direct drive 250 watt motor that didn't provide that much power considering all the extra weight and it really adversely affected the handling of the bike.

Really no surprise that Bionx went out of business. The system had a poor power to weight ratio once installed on a bike, the proprietary battery communication also made replacement batteries more expensive than they needed to be. After owning one a few months I knew I'd never buy another one and never recommend one to anyone else.
 
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dodahman

Active Member
My Mangum Metro plus is a lot of fun. I have not been disappointed. The build quality exceeded my expectations. I like the hydraulic brakes, and the included rack. I have spinal cord injury, can't walk, and needed a step through. I can peddle this with level one or two assistance until my butt gives out. Given the current social distancing, this bike is very important to my mental health! It is not a 'top of the line' bike, but fine with me. I ride daily if possible, but not as far as many on this forum.
 

Gordon71

Active Member
I thought that this thread might be fun, and would probably be helpful to those who might be looking at getting their first e-bike.

We all do plenty of research before buying, which is so well supported by the reviews on this site and the posts in these forums. Some are lucky enough to have local shops where at least some riding tests can be had. I don't really have shops close by which can provide test rides so all of my purchases have been based on internet research, as well as a long history in bicycling and motorcycling.

My wife and I got our first e-bikes back in late 2010 (Pedego Comfort Cruisers). We were hooked on the e-bike concept immediately, and used them mostly when RV camping. But we hadn't used them much for the last couple of years so I sold them off in January of this year. And then I started looking at what was currently available in the e-bike market, and was pleasantly surprised at how things had improved since we first bought our bikes. I intended to get a couple of 'do-it-all' bikes to replace the Pedego cruisers. Then my plan went all awry as I was enjoying them so much that I wanted to get specialized bikes for specific purposes. I've spent a ton of money on our little 'fleet' recently, but we now have different bikes for different purposes, similar style bikes to ride together, and extra bikes to ride with friends and visiting family. Plus they have gotten us back out riding again, and there isn't really a price you can put on the improvements to our health.

With all of that said, there are at least 2 stand-out bikes which, although I knew that they should be good, have really far exceeded my expectations now that I have some miles on them. So without further ado:

1) Raleigh Tamland iE. I knew when purchasing this bike that it had been discontinued by Raleigh (I can't figure out why though), and it was a real chore to find one in the large size (I'm 6'4" tall). But I finally found one and scored it for an excellent close-out price. I knew based on the spec that it should be good, and that I wanted something with the efficiency of a road bike for longer rides. It was to be my first experience with a Brose drive system.

And boy do I love this bike! I made a couple of revisions to it which I knew I wanted to do up front (RedShift suspension stem and Thudbuster ST suspension seatpost), and it is an absolute joy to ride. I've never taken it above the middle 'Tour' power level, and with the winds we've been having lately it still rides into headwinds just beautifully. I really like everything about it - the quiet drive system, pedal assist provided up to 28 mph, how smooth it rides and how well the whole package works together. Probably my very favorite e-bike to date.

2) Grace MX II Trail. I also knew when purchasing this bike that Grace had pulled out of the U.S. market, and that there would be virtually no support for it (well, I hoped that there would still be support through Bosch if ultimately necessary). Once again, it should be an excellent performer based on its spec, and it was possible that it could work very well on light trails/fire roads as well as on the street.

And it has exceeded my expectations. It works incredibly well on the street, is extremely efficient and for some reason the motor provides assist in excess of 25 mph (was supposed to be only up to 20 mph) out of the box. The bike feels much lighter than its actual weight - maybe that's just due to fantastic balance. I haven't trail ridden it much yet, but with a bit less air in the tires it seems like trail use will be just fine. I'm stoked that I got this bike as it was available to me at a killer price and is just really well done.

So what bikes have you purchased that have really 'wowed' you after all of your research, or even your first test rides?
So far I've only had 1 and only for a short time but I have to say it exceeded my expectations. I admit my expectations were based solely on research and watching video reviews and quite a lot of it as there was no chance I would ever get to test ride any E bikes where I live. The bike I chose is the Rad Rover step through.
 

ElevenAD

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My Ariel Rider W-Class!
got this bike on sale for 1500, came with a 48v 18ah battery, torque sensor,750/1000watt motor,hydraulic brakes,integrated lights+brake lights,28mph throttle top speed even when loaded down, i just dont see many bikes like this for the price,its a very aggressive vintage style beach cruiser.
love that bike!
 
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jazz

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Exceeded:
  • Juiced Hyperfat
  • Luna X1
  • Brammo Empulse R (emotorcycle)

Met:
  • Sondors Fat
  • BH Evo Snow
  • Polaris Vector
  • Brammo Enertia (emotorcycle)
  • Zero SR (emotorcycle)

Disappointed
  • Polaris Terrain
 

Nova Haibike

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I have only had one, my 2016 Haibike Trekking RC. The Yamaha motor's performance has exceeded my expectations...at least after derestricting it. The frame and most of the components have met my expectations; those that have not have mostly been upgraded. The one thing I am most disappointed with is the weight. It is roughly 50 lbs. Until I win the lottery (or start working for a Specialized dealer), the Turbo Creo SL will have to wait.
 

ruffruff

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BikTrix Juggernaut Classic. Met expectations.
Knew what I was getting, no surprises I like it. If I had to do it again, I'd probably buy another or bigger motor version so I guess that's a Plus

BH Rebel Lynx 27.5, Pw-se Exceeds
BUTTTT it is my first yamaha full suspension 27.5 bike so nothing to compare it with.
BUT I have never had a more comfortable bike, I love the 27.5 tires,
I would never own another MTB without full suspension.
The Yamaha motor is heads and tails above the Bafang.

I feel blessed that I get to pick between the two!
 

TMH

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I have only had one, my 2016 Haibike Trekking RC. The Yamaha motor's performance has exceeded my expectations...at least after derestricting it. The frame and most of the components have met my expectations; those that have not have mostly been upgraded. The one thing I am most disappointed with is the weight. It is roughly 50 lbs. Until I win the lottery (or start working for a Specialized dealer), the Turbo Creo SL will have to wait.
Those Turbo Creo's seem like they are awfully sweet bikes!

What was your chosen solution to de-restrict the Haibike's Yamaha motor?
 

Captain Slow

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David Berry - you have some really bad luck with your bikes. I sure hope you end up with one that serves you well.
TMH - I'm surprised that a large would fit you at 6' 4", I would have figured an XL would be necessary. My Juiced CCS is a large and I'm only 5'9" and I feel like I'd like the top tube to be longer so I'm not so upright.
Dodahman - Sorry to hear about your injury, it's fantastic that you're able to ride an ebike since you can't walk.
 

Captain Slow

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I have only had one, my 2016 Haibike Trekking RC. The Yamaha motor's performance has exceeded my expectations...at least after derestricting it. The frame and most of the components have met my expectations; those that have not have mostly been upgraded. The one thing I am most disappointed with is the weight. It is roughly 50 lbs. Until I win the lottery (or start working for a Specialized dealer), the Turbo Creo SL will have to wait.
The Creo is sweet, but I think there are alternatives that come close and are cheaper. Notably I would look at the Cube Agree C62. My Creo E5 Comp was $6k Cdn. but the Cube is only $4,500 Cdn. - If I were buying again today I'd consider getting that instead.

I also like the Cannondale Synapse, which is about the same price but it at least has a double chainring, it is heavier though so I'd have to ride one and see how it felt.

There is a lot of innovation and things are changing rapidly, I wouldn't be surprised if in a year or two that there's something better than the Creo at a cheaper price.
 

TMH

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David Berry - you have some really bad luck with your bikes. I sure hope you end up with one that serves you well.
TMH - I'm surprised that a large would fit you at 6' 4", I would have figured an XL would be necessary. My Juiced CCS is a large and I'm only 5'9" and I feel like I'd like the top tube to be longer so I'm not so upright.
Dodahman - Sorry to hear about your injury, it's fantastic that you're able to ride an ebike since you can't walk.

Yes, I definitely go for an XL frame, when they are available. My RipCurrent S is an XL and while it fits me fine, that bike is just a Panzer in size and weight - longer than many motorcycles.

In other cases I have to try and make a 'one-size-fits-all' frame size work. With a riser/extension stem and a 400mm seatpost I was able to achieve this on my FLX Roadster SE. But that is now a moot point since my wife has claimed that bike after riding it once. And now I got to order my Turbo Vado 4.0 to have a similar bike to go out with her when she rides clipped into her Roadster! ;)

I had read that the Tamland iE (available in Medium or Large frame sizes) was a tad small for taller riders. But with the extension (and a little rise) from the RedShift Suspension stem, and the amount of usable length on the Thudbuster ST seat post, I've gotten it to fit me quite comfortably. Even when I'm down on the drop bars riding into the wind, I'm not as aerodynamic as a shorter person would be, but it is still effective enough.

Plus I'm used to it. When I rode acoustic road bikes more aggressively (20+ years ago now), my riding buddies used to love being in line behind me - they affectionately (?) called me 'The Winnebago', and fortunately I had strong enough legs for long pulls.