Where E-bikes are Made, and Why it's Important

Big Tom

Member
China is perfectly capable of manufacturing quality products. They manufacture iPhones, after all. If a US or other company uses a Chinese contract manufacturer, it is up to them (the customer) to impose quality requirements on the manufacturer and to audit them regularly. But supply chain management is no easy task, nor is manufacturing a quality product in China. It is not something a small company could likely do easily. Which is why the Apples of the world can afford to do this, but the smaller, startup companies, not so much.

Anyone old enough to have lived through the 50's - 70's will recall that the 'Made in Japan' label was a mark of shame. That has not been the case since the late 70's. Which car is most likely to last a quarter million miles with minimal repairs - a Japanese or US made car. Yes, I know many Japanese branded cars are assembled in the US. But the Japanese company controls the supply chain and is ultimately responsible for the overall quality.
Agree 100%
 

Trail Cruiser

Well-Known Member
China is perfectly capable of manufacturing quality products. They manufacture iPhones, after all. If a US or other company uses a Chinese contract manufacturer, it is up to them (the customer) to impose quality requirements on the manufacturer and to audit them regularly. But supply chain management is no easy task, nor is manufacturing a quality product in China. It is not something a small company could likely do easily. Which is why the Apples of the world can afford to do this, but the smaller, startup companies, not so much.

Anyone old enough to have lived through the 50's - 70's will recall that the 'Made in Japan' label was a mark of shame. That has not been the case since the late 70's. Which car is most likely to last a quarter million miles with minimal repairs - a Japanese or US made car. Yes, I know many Japanese branded cars are assembled in the US. But the Japanese company controls the supply chain and is ultimately responsible for the overall quality.

History shaped the culture of Japan and even solidified it in their laws. Many people prefer a car completely assembled in Japan since it has the most stringent quality control.

Sadly, the opposite is true in China and most Chinese people even avoid Chinese-made cars. They know first hand that there is not much incentive in building quality products. Most Chinese manufacturers (not all) rather prefer the shot term high profit margin over the long term solid business relation with customers.
 

rannyv

Active Member
I have worked with Chinese manufacturers and know first hand what they are capable of. If they are held to high standards and are paid to do so, they can make a high quality product. They can also make cheap products. A co-worker purchased a $1000 Chinese ebike and rides it 40 miles round trip per day, 5 days a week. He is a big, strong man and the frame broke in less than a year. That's what you get for $1000. But if you pay the money and control the quality, my first hand experience is that they are capable of producing high quality products at lower prices.
 

rich c

Well-Known Member
History shaped the culture of Japan and even solidified it in their laws. Many people prefer a car completely assembled in Japan since it has the most stringent quality control.

Sadly, the opposite is true in China and most Chinese people even avoid Chinese-made cars. They know first hand that there is not much incentive in building quality products. Most Chinese manufacturers (not all) rather prefer the shot term high profit margin over the long term solid business relation with customers.
Even if 3/4 of Chinese people avoid Chinese made cars, they still sell a lot of cars.
 

Trail Cruiser

Well-Known Member
Here is a glimpse of the car industry in China, Many of them are blatant knock offs of reputable brands, and altering the name a little bit but sounds a little bit similar to the real brand. This is not to destroy the image of China, it's just an observation by these 2 foreigners.


 
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Trail Cruiser

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Where the parts are made or the whole units are made, it matters if you run the risk of having fake components. There are countries that can hardly stop the manufacture of fake products.

There are countries that do not adhere to international patent and trademak laws. Critical parts like fake bearings can end up in sudden catastrophic failures.


 
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rannyv

Active Member
The question at hand is not 'Do certain countries make some poor quality products?' or 'Do they ever engage in any unethical business practices?'. It is 'Are they capable of manufacturing to a high standard of quality at a low price point?'. It is my belief, based on first hand experiences dealing with the Chinese, in China, at Chinese factories, that the answer is yes, they can most certainly do this.