California will require certification of the power. If the manufacturers game the little certificate, they will end up where Volkswagen ended up, with the diesel fiasco.I've got no issues with high powered ebike existing and people riding them, I'm just worried that idiots on the bike path or hiking trail riding a 3000w bike will do more damage to ebike reputation than an idiot on a 250w bike. Instead of pretending they are the same, if 30+mph bikes were classified as mopeds and restricted to the same places it would be better for everyone.
"First off, after California, it can't really happen."
Huh? I think the CA laws actually opened the doors to call any ebike "legal" and the makers and sellers just look the other way. Neither of these are legal under CA law, but they say they are and they're all located in CA, so you'd think they'd know.
At least Luna tells you it's not, but it sure wouldn't stop me from riding it on the street.
Same here, I try not to disrupt the flow of traffic and attract unwanted attention, I even studied road cycling etiquette and their spoken and sign languages so I can blend and not cause disruption. I also give a lot of respect to other cyclists and pass them only when it is really safe to do so. Without e-power, I can only do very few miles and miss the joy of riding a bicycle.I am simply going to say me and my 350w Haibike SDuro share the trails quite nicely with the hikers and non-ebikes alike. Most don't even know it's an "e". More so, I'm getting older and my right knee usually doesn't hold up to more than 2-4 miles depending on the hills. So now I'm getting up to 10 miles with an equivalent workout without overly straining the joints. More importantly, I can do the distance with my teenage son. He still wins, but at least we're still out there, together.
MTB clubs here use common sense. Those unable will be allowed to ride the trails. HOWEVER some are technical enough to be dangerous to someone not completely able. We ride bike paths with our 350W bikes. Dead quiet and we never throttle. We ride the same speeds we would if completely able on a family trail with walkers, runners, skateboards, X country ski wheels, and more. Respect and respect comes back.Without e-power, I can only do very few miles and miss the joy of riding a bicycle.
Unfortunately the lack nes berween motorcycle and ebike are being blurred. The 72w 3kw 45 mph "ebike" have no place on mtd trails deveoped, paid for and maintained by mtb clubs.E-Mtb should be able to be used on trails. I find myself giving way for other cyclists and hikers because It's easier to gain momentum. I often turn assist off if wishing exercise or on for riding with my much faster friends. I use a class I pedelec, I agree throttle e-bikes should not be allowed.
I like to think that I understand why this is so, but should it be? If the number of erring cyclists is low, then surely banning them specifically will control that problem sufficiently, no? That and a hefty fine should be enough to keep the irresponsible in check. If the majority abide by the rules, then the problem should be easy to fix.Whether you are pro or con E bike in my mind is completely irrelevant, If you don't want or like to ride Ebikes then don't. The one and only thing determining whether are not one should be able to ride his or her bike on public trails boils down to one factor and that is the rider/operator of the bike. Unfortunately you are always going to have the showoff child that is going to spoil it for the rule abiding masses.