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Easy, easy... Are you trading your SLX 12 drive-train for the SLX 11 in Yamaha? Want heavier Rock Shox shocks? Yamaha could also do better with a larger battery. The Magura MT30 brakes: aren't those the budget ones? Nice frame, true, yet hier das Hund ist begraben in the detailsI've got a Trance for sale...
$5499. With the engineering involved on full suspension combined with a mid drive, it's a miracle the price is below $6000. I would not even touch a full suspension priced below $5000 on a quality mid drive ebike, and you could not pay me enough to even take any full suspension HUB drive ebike. That concept is a disaster waiting to happen, as the frame and mechanical linkage forces involved, and components and precision needed in manufacturing to get this right, and not have it fail prematurely are going to cost a lot of money to build. Period. And there is not sufficient sales volume for this combination to make it up by scaling to reasonable enough volume to allow for a much lower price than where Yamaha has theirs now.The engineering reasoning behind such design is that, the more compact your front triangle is, stiffer the frame, low polar moment of inertia (read better agility). A stiff frame + quality suspension components make the bike highly predictable in technical conditions.
Yamaha has made it compact and I suspect the bike would ride like a true MTB. I am expecting the bike to be priced at $4999 ... we shall see ...(There is a saying in Russia ... "the blind said, we'll see ..)
My Giant Trance E+ 2 Pro with SyncDrive Pro, 150 mm Fox 36 front fork and 150 rear FOX DPS VOL and SLX 12 sp drivetrain cost me US$4850. I wonder how much @Browneye paid for his.I would not even touch a full suspension priced below $5000 on a quality mid drive ebike
Do you ride it anywhere other than smooth pavement, or just admire it in your garage ? Note I didn't say firms wont sell one lower priced, but I said "QUALITY" one and that I would not buy one for less, knowing the design capabilities and costs needed to accomplish them. (as a degreed mechanical engineer). Im sure some clowns or hacks will try to build and sell ones with Bafang motors, and price them even lower. All's I gotta say is 'buyer beware' big time.
Off-road is a rather vague term unless you qualify it. Riding on a technical track vs riding off pavement on regular direct roads are leagues apart. This is not to say how Stefan or Browneye rides their MTBs, just making sure we are clear on the usage definition.The market has changed and there are now a number of very high-quality mid-drive EMTBs in the $4-$5k range.
The new Yamaha Moro is a great example of this trend and is priced at $ 4,499 MSRP.
I can assure you that Stefan and Browneye ride more off-road than you can imagine.
Did you ride the Giant Trance E+ on trail? Oh, I did. Morass, trail, single track uphill, downhill. Only off-road.Do you ride it anywhere other than smooth pavement, or just admire it in your garage ?
Off-road is a rather vague term unless you qualify it. Riding on a technical track vs riding off-pavement on regular direct roads are leagues apart.
This is not to say how Stefan or Browneye rides their MTBs, just making sure we are clear on the usage definition.
The only novelty about Yamaha e-MTB is the frame. One might wonder it that's better than the Maestro suspension
$3900 usd About a thousand off the list for a left-over model. Our sales tax is 8%. That was about a month before the pandemic took off.
I thought that was a steal-deal for what I got. You're not gonna touch a new yammerhar for that, either model.
That blue and brushed-alloy on the Pro is really nice. The yellow...not so much. Seems like a good deal for what you're getting.
Now we need @PDoz to test-ride one and do a report for us.
This was so steep I walked down most of it. I can't risk landing on my head again. LOL
It's WAY WAY steeper than it looks.
This is the high-speed stuff you go through at the speed-limiter.
Then they put water-bars across the trail, so now there are jumps.